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post #701 of 1636
I don't see how it's a ripoff... price is higher than I would like it to be, but that doesn't make it a ripoff.
 
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65 fps? at 1200Mhz? LOL

you do realize there is a guy in the Valley thread who got 59fps with a 7970 at 1080p right? Was that supposed to be impressive? Hell i got 54 lol.

I don't think that was the benchmark score - just that he was hitting those frame rates. I didn't watch the whole video, but in scanning it I never saw him run the actual benchmark.
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Obviously Raghu must make some worthy contributions considering his rep total. I just think he is looking at Titan the wrong way...

raghu's rep is very respectable, though I have to come clean and point out that about half my rep is from fanboy CPU/GPU flame wars, so... don't draw too many conclusions based on that stuff alone tongue.gif
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He's right, we saw the exact same situation with the switch over to Fermi, only Nvidia went ahead with GF100's launch with catastrophic consequences. This time they skipped GK100 and waited for GK110 to be perfected. The thing I don't get though from these guys blaming AMD for Titan's price is why didn't Nvidia price the 580 similarly to Titan. AMD never had any competition for GF110 either....

It had HD 6970 with more vRAM and only 10% Slower performance. It was also a lot cheaper. From the looks of that generation if HD 8970 and GTX780 come out 85% of the Titans performance they should be at least $700.
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post #705 of 1636
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He's right, we saw the exact same situation with the switch over to Fermi, only Nvidia went ahead with GF100's launch with catastrophic consequences. This time they skipped GK100 and waited for GK110 to be perfected. The thing I don't get though from these guys blaming AMD for Titan's price is why didn't Nvidia price the 580 similarly to Titan. AMD never had any competition for GF110 either....

Remember HD 4870 - 85% of GTX 280 . HD 5870 - 85% of GTX 480. HD 6970 - 85% of GTX 580. in all cases the Nvidia flagship was priced at USD 500. you cannot price at USD 1000 when your competitor is on par with your 2nd high end SKU (GTX 260, GTX 470, GTX 570) . This time because of a lack of HD 8970 at 85% of Titan we are seeing this absurd price.
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If Intel charged $1500 for an IB-E octocore would you praise them for providing the fastest consumer CPU,

1500 for an unlocked Octocore? That's a bargin. Have you seen the price for the 2687W?
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They're just freaking out because they think now Nvidia is going to start charging $1k for all of their cards. You guys can still get the 680 for $450 and its no slouch. It's not the end of the world for Nvidia to offer an even faster card for people who can afford the extra performance.
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1500 for an unlocked Octocore? That's a bargin. Have you seen the price for the 2687W?

>comparing workstation prices to consumer prices
>ignoring the point and arguing about something off-topic

oh boy here we go rolleyes.gif
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They're just freaking out because they think now Nvidia is going to start charging $1k for all of their cards. You guys can still get the 680 for $450 and its no slouch. It's not the end of the world for Nvidia to offer an even faster card for people who can afford the extra performance.

It all stated with the GTX690. Dual GPUs used to be $500 and now they are $1000 also. Would not be surprising that some next dual GPU is 1.2K.
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Titan holds no tangible advantage over what item?

Why are so many people hurt over the cost of Titan? If you can't afford it, look into other more affordable and cheaper alternatives. Y'all act like other Nvidia and AMD offerings are slouches...

The issue is not the price of the Titan, at least not relatively. The issue is that the GTX 690 costs the same as the Titan, and the 690, which has been on the market now for over half a year, is still considerably quicker.

The problem is that nvidia is gouging itself by pricing the Titan at $1k. Nvidia already has a card at the $1k price point, and it already happens to be a faster card. That means the Titan's price point simply does not make sense. At least at $900, the GTX 690 still has its place as the fastest and most expensive card in nvidia's consumer lineup. Since the Titan will be $1000, it's going to make the GTX 690 the fastest, but it will be tied for most expensive. Who in their right mind would choose a Titan over a 690 when both cards are priced the same and the 690 is faster?

Yes, I realize that the performance scaling on multi-card setups for the Titan is going to be awesome. The Titan makes a case for itself in that case... or does it? Now we cross into a paradox a la Fermi where Fermi cards were great for multi-monitor setups... that is, if you bought a second card. By itself, a GTX 4xx/5xx card could not drive 3 monitors. Only with a second card could you drive 3 monitors simultaneously. The Fermi paradox now crosses into Big Kepler: Titan is only a good value if you buy 2 cards.

Am I the only one that really understands what nvidia is doing here? It does not take a rocket scientist to see that Nvidia is playing this market like a soap opera; reactionary economics at its finest. It worked for Fermi... it will work for Big Kepler too. wink.gif

It's a mistake to buy any Titan GPU's. Doing this will give nvidia the green light to continue to make their best single-GPU flagship into a $1k card. That makes the dual-GPU card $2k in a couple generations... $2k for a single consumer graphics card. Those of you that see Titan as a "status symbol" need to turn on the lights. You're buying a graphics card, not a sports car. Most people don't even know what a graphics card is, let along what a Geforce Titan is. If you're buying it for the status, you're doing it wrong. In fact, if you're buying it PERIOD, you're doing it wrong. The 690 makes a case for itself, but the Titan? The Titan is an abomination to high-end graphics cards at the $1000 price point.

Food for thought. Be careful what you wish for. wink.gif
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