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post #731 of 1636
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Originally Posted by h2spartan View Post

Sad huh...has performance really taken a back set to aesthetics? Now it's more about flaunting what you payed more for rather than what it actually does.

Yeah, it's bad enough when it's an iPhone or a MacBook, but a graphics card? Sheesh.

Epeen is one thing. A status symbol is on a whole nother level.
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Originally Posted by Lavix View Post

You think they're just marketing to gamers? There are corporations, programmers, etc who will gladly shell out the 1K for this card. I think it's clear, via the specs, that this card wasn't exactly geared towards people trying to max out Crysis 3.. but for those who are running multiple complicated programs and applications. The initial application of this GPU is enough to suggest that, too.. they weren't using it to game. They were using it, in SLI, to power the world's strongest computer. Corporations and even a mid-grade business will gladly pay 1K for that for more efficiency/power.

Those people will most likely be very happy to buy a Quadro.
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With the whole 7970 situation, though, I'm not sure we can still trust AMD to undercut NVIDIA by that much. I mean, the HD 4870 came between NVIDIA's $400 and $650 cards and cost $300 just two weeks after those NVIDIA cards were released... that was an amazing price war. What if AMD decides it's okay to charge $800 for the 8970?

Usario gets it. thumb.gif

The problem is that a standard is going to be set with Titan. AMD will eventually create a single-GPU that will dethrone Titan. There is no doubt about that. The problem is that if nvidia is selling the Titan at $1k and selling it successfully at that price point, what company in their right mind would sell a flagship video card at $500 when they can sell it for $1000 and sell their mid-range for $500?

The precedent is being set with the Titan. That's the issue. It's not a status symbol; it's a rip-off.
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Those people will most likely be very happy to buy a Quadro.

And, that's what this is: an entry-level workstation card that also happens to kick ass at gaming.
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I NEED those benchmarks to see how much improvement I will see in surround vision with 2 or 3 titans over my classifieds... Love this thread, is a fun read!

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You are the embodiment of my entire argument on this situation. I appreciate your input.

Graphics cards as a status symbol.... rolleyes.gif

Why do we have our rigs listed in our sigs? Why do we post our benchmark numbers in the forum? Why do we drool over guys like Vega who build crazy laboratory machines just to run 3dmark11. You're darn right video cards are status symbols just in the same way as turbo kits are to car guys. Let's not pretend as though we don't care what other computer hobbyists think of our rigs shall we... rolleyes.gif


This reminded me of this, back when I had a 3820.
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Why do we have our rigs listed in our sigs? Why do we post our benchmark numbers in the forum? Why do we drool over guys like Vega who build crazy laboratory machines just to run 3dmark11. You're darn right video cards are status symbols just in the same way as turbo kits are to car guys. Let's not pretend as though we don't care what other computer hobbyists think of our rigs shall we... rolleyes.gif

Yep, pretend "high-horse" nose snubbing is pretty hilarious. You're spot-on, of course, but they won't admit it.
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ah finally we have hit the nail on its head. Titan pricing is not about luxury product or premium product. nonsense. its about lack of competition. If AMD took the fight to Nvidia the way they did with HD 4870 then we will see Nvidia respond. Titan pricing is about exploiting the lack of competition. its what everyone in business does. Intel does, AMD did when they could, Nvidia does. case closed. thumb.gif

Those where tough times for AMD and they had to price HD 4870 like that. They could have easily priced it same as GTX260 but people would have chosen GTX260 because it Nvidia and had more user base back then thanks to 8800 GTX. Completion will increase or decrease prices. GTX580 was $500, HD 7970 was priced $550. What does that tell you?
If AMD right now has a card faster then GTX Titan they would price it above 1K trust me. GTX Titan setting stone $1K for single GPU @ a performance level makes a card like HD 8970 when it comes out sound about right @ $699 or even higher. If HD 8970 hypothetically speaking is as fast as Titan AMD has no problem pricing it at leas $900.

I got nothing against 1K price of Titan and for the time and the features performance it delivers it might be worth it to some people but i hope it does not effect other cards and Nvidia/AMD in future product pricing.
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And, that's what this is: an entry-level workstation card that also happens to kick ass at gaming.

We'll see how it does as a workstation card once the actual benchmark numbers are posted. Until then: fair enough, we'll see if anyone actually buys it for a workstation.
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If Intel charged $1500 for an IB-E octocore would you praise them for providing the fastest consumer CPU, a "luxury Extreme Edition" product that fits your "preferences", or would you criticize them for stagnating growth by making a CPU with an even worse price/performance ratio than the previous generation?

No one buying Titan (or a flagship CPU for that matter) cares about price/performance. Something some people can't seem to grasp... Why does price/performance ratio keep coming up in these threads?

How about we wait for some real overclocked to overclocked benchmarks to see if it's really a bad price/performance ratio? If it's 44% faster than a 680 at stock (going by the official NVIDIA leak), I see it being upwards of 70% faster when comparing overclocked to overclocked because it has voltage control. That puts it barely slower than a 690 with considerably less heat, power draw.. while also ensuring the is no microstuttering or SLI related driver issues. The official NVIDIA performance chart that was posted on the official NVIDIA site, then taken down, shows a single titan at stock beating a stock 690 in 3dmark Vantage. If that's true, then performance/price is not nearly as bad as some people are making it.

Remember, it has been a very long time since a single GPU card has surpassed dual GPU configs of the previous generation. If an overclocked titan can beat a 690, it's $1000 price tag is extremely justified in my opinion. If you want the "standard" 25% performance increase over the previous generation, then wait for the 780... which will probably be about $500.
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And, that's what this is: an entry-level workstation card that also happens to kick ass at gaming.

We'll see how it does as a workstation card once the actual benchmark numbers are posted. Until then: fair enough, we'll see if anyone actually buys it for a workstation.


It's no going to work great for large distributed loads since they removed that functionality. It's now what, only good for small loads compute wise? So I suspect there won't be any free lunches thinking you are getting a K20 on the cheap.
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