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GTX 780 will 20%-30% faster than 680. Titan will be faster than 780 for sure. With gaming. No doubt about that. If people have the money for Titan, let them buy it. The GPGPU performance with Titan is a BONUS.

Jesus

Tomshardware just lost my respect. He is biased and try to push his views on people. He should just post raw data with very little subjective analysis. All reviewers should try to stay neutral.

I don't see this as a problem for people on this forum. We know what we want.


I think they are mostly trying to hint that it isn't better than the 690, 2x 680's or 2x 7970's before they can let the review out.
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No more previews, we want reviews Nvidia! biggrin.gif

 

Yeah sorry man, I only noticed after making this thread tongue.gif

 

@ Hukkel

 

Yeah overclocking a monitor is possible now depending on the model. Also, folding is FP32 which is never capped on consumer cards. It will be faster since GTX 680 has 1,536 and TITAN has 2,688. Especially when watercooling this thing is supposed to clock like a beast (1GHz without trying reported). The price is murder though. How the hell am I going to get my hands on one...

 

Care to make me a good deal again biggrin.gif?

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My 3 monitors wouls like to say hello to this gpu with 6 vram, 384 bit bus.......They would say "Hi big fellow" tongue.gif What's your name?..lol
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Must resist urge....and wait it out for 7970 to become obsolete
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post #85 of 1636
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Originally Posted by Cloudfire777 View Post

STOP
TELLING
PEOPLE
WHAT
TO
BUY

GTX 780 will 20%ish faster than 680 like previously refresh. Titan will be faster than 780 for sure. With gaming. No doubt about that. If people have the money for Titan, let them buy it. The GPGPU performance with Titan is a BONUS.

Jesus

Tomshardware just lost my respect. He is biased and try to push his views on people. He should just post raw data with very little subjective analysis. All reviewers should try to stay neutral.

I'm sorry, have you lost your ability to quantify free will?

I can't force you to do anything or, tell you to do anything.

I'm offering an opinion as a business owner/vendor that's sampled this offering thoroughly. Not saying more beyond that but, Tom's as well as practically every single reviewer worth a damned has said the same thing:

"Don't spend the 1k if you're just gaming because you're wasting your money"

I don't know how to be quite clearer but, I'm here to help my fellow "compadres" save some cash.

Say you're right which, I'm not able to confirm/deny, 2x 780's will cost 50$ or so more than a Titan and yet, have better overall performance.

You're ultimately free to spend your money how you choose...I'd rather save your pockets in a garbage economy if I can...Call it goodwill towards other enthusiasts.
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$/Performance and pure performance are NOT the same thing. I will eat my hat if the GTX 780 beats the Titan in games. To accomplish that they would need to go bigger than 520mm2 or drastically increase the efficiency... the latter being something I am not expecting until 20mn and Maxwell.

Some of us (especially those of us with large resolutions or 120Hz) are just looking for the best performance regardless of price. I would not be surprised if Titan SLI beat 690 Quad SLI if Titan was running near 1200MHz (see Guru3d preview) all while not causing "major SLI issues on the X79 platform".

690 in Quad-SLI has always been crippled.

680 in Quad-SLI is what actually counts.

However, every platform on the market currently has SLI performance issues so, I bet you'll be hard pressed to find 2 "equal" reviews that even come close to the same results.
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Dear god, should I pull the trigger?

I'm going to on the fact that i can recoup 300 dollars from my 680, and the fact i can only fit one card in my case. And i also think this card will be top tier for 2 years. Thus i might be able to get away with not getting a GTX 880. Especially if they make an 880 titan of sorts a few months after that comes out.
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Originally Posted by Cloudfire777 View Post

STOP
TELLING
PEOPLE
WHAT
TO
BUY

GTX 780 will 20%ish faster than 680 like previously refresh. Titan will be faster than 780 for sure. With gaming. No doubt about that. If people have the money for Titan, let them buy it. The GPGPU performance with Titan is a BONUS.

Jesus

Tomshardware just lost my respect. He is biased and try to push his views on people. He should just post raw data with very little subjective analysis. All reviewers should try to stay neutral.

I'm sorry, have you lost your ability to quantify free will?

I can't force you to do anything or, tell you to do anything.

I'm offering an opinion as a business owner/vendor that's sampled this offering thoroughly. Not saying more beyond that but, Tom's as well as practically every single reviewer worth a damned has said the same thing:

"Don't spend the 1k if you're just gaming because you're wasting your money"

I don't know how to be quite clearer but, I'm here to help my fellow "compadres" save some cash.

Say you're right which, I'm not able to confirm/deny, 2x 780's will cost 50$ or so more than a Titan and yet, have better overall performance.

You're ultimately free to spend your money how you choose...I'd rather save your pockets in a garbage economy if I can...Call it goodwill towards other enthusiasts.

Uhhh.... This is more than possible right now with 7970s or 680s for well less than $1000. Don't need anybody to "confirm or deny" anything. rolleyes.gif
Cheaper cards in SLI/CFX beating the big boy is nothing new and to be expected.
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$/Performance and pure performance are NOT the same thing. I will eat my hat if the GTX 780 beats the Titan in games. To accomplish that they would need to go bigger than 520mm2 or drastically increase the efficiency... the latter being something I am not expecting until 20mn and Maxwell.

Some of us (especially those of us with large resolutions or 120Hz) are just looking for the best performance regardless of price. I would not be surprised if Titan SLI beat 690 Quad SLI if Titan was running near 1200MHz (see Guru3d preview) all while not causing "major SLI issues on the X79 platform".

690 in Quad-SLI has always been crippled.

680 in Quad-SLI is what actually counts.

However, every platform on the market currently has SLI performance issues so, I bet you'll be hard pressed to find 2 "equal" reviews that even come close to the same results.

*shrugs* 4x 680 is probably better.

My point was that SLI is in general more reliable than Quad-SLI and paying more for the Titans gets you that reliability and near the performance. Same argument for a single Titan vs 680SLI if a single card is your thing. thumb.gif
Edited by JCPUser - 2/19/13 at 7:25am
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And, of course, you didn't address Nvidia's monitor overclocking section on AnandTech because it doesn't fit you rationale. Of course enthusiasts are a minority of the market, but they are far more important than their marketshare.

Oh, you mean the overclocking monitor feature that works on maybe 10% of the market's monitors currently? ~ The ones that no enthusiast really wants? That feature is the one you're discussing?

Hrm, wonder why I wouldn't address something that I haven't seen actually work in the past 2 months...wink.gif
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I want to hear you say one positive thing in this thread for me to take you seriously.

It actually is a nice card. It comes at a pricepoint where there is 0 competition in that market. Nvidia will make a total killing.

For the gamer, you have other options that are right around the corner. That will be better for gaming.

If you fold + game, you can't beat the card. It's genuinely a nice card.

If you just game and have a mid-tower, this card isn't for you, you can do better by exercising some patience.

I have plenty of nice things to say about this card but, they aren't geared at gaming because for $1000, you can actually do better with SLI.

I have quad 680's on my current rig, I do agree there are major SLI issues on the X79 platform, same is true of Crossfire but, once again, I strongly urge those of you who have the cash, to wait just a bit longer and a better option for GAMING, will be readily available.


Interesting that you selectively pick which part of my comment to answer. Now you omitted the first part. You didn't comment on the second sentence of the part you did chose to quote either.

About the Korean monitors:

1. Did you actually read the HUGE threads that are going on in this forum and other forums about these monitors ? How did tech sites suddenly notice them ?;

2. How many monitors with overclocking features actually existed before this ? This is a new market that just emerged. And it's getting noticed, first by enthusiasts, then by tech sites, and now EVGA and Nvidia jumped on the bandwagon;

3. How many times does a product that is the first to market does everything right even more so when we're talking about very affordable monitors that can do something no other IPS 27" 1440p monitor can do ? And how would you say overclocking should work perfectly on every single one of them ? Not even CPUs all overclock the same. Some are good at it, some aren't. In any case, when you compare percentages, these monitors overclock on a bigger percentage compared to their default refresh rate than any CPU out there. Even if you can 'only' overclock the monitor to 90 Hz, that is a 50% overclock compared to the default 60 Hz.



About the Titan:

1. What do you mean by waiting a little longer ? For enthusiasts, time is important. If you mean we are six months away from the GTX 700 series, then the Titan is worth the money now. Even more so considering that:

a) You dodge the SLI / Crossfire issues: From TH:
Quote:
In the most demanding titles, two GK110s scale much more linearly than four GK104s
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b) You dodge complicated or loud cooling solutions for dual or triple or quad card configurations;

c) For high resolutions in multiple monitor gaming this card makes more sense than buying a GTX 690, which has less VRAM and comes with SLI problems;

d) a single Titan is going to use less power than two GTX 680s or a GTX 690, or at most the same. This will give you less cable clutter (compared to two GTX 680's) and better airflow inside the case;

Having said all this, of course the Titan is for a small minority, just like supercars are just for a small minority, but that doesn't mean they are not the object of desire and definitely have a place for those few who can afford them.
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Uhhh.... This is more than possible right now with 7970s or 680s for well less than $1000. Don't need anybody to "confirm or deny" anything. rolleyes.gif

Cheaper cards in SLI/CFX beating the big boy is nothing new and to be expected.

I was just responding to what he directly said in regards to price/performance.

A single 780 may or may not beat the Titan but, 2 most certainly will for it's price point. So will 2x 680's or 2x7970's.

If the Titan was $700 we couldn't really argue that and as Tom's points out, it would justify the performance but, once again, the card isn't exactly made for the gamer...It's aimed at a gap in the market and fills it quite easily.

It's also meant to be the lowest offering of what's available so, there's definitely more to come. thumb.gif
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