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Originally Posted by Mad Pistol View Post

There is no reason to price this card at $1000; it's not $1000 worth of performance. Maybe $800, but not $1000. $1000 is reserved for the GTX 690, which performs better than Titan.

I'm serious here - why is $800 okay but $1000 not? If this is "only" big Kepler, than shouldn't only $500 be okay?
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Originally Posted by tsm106 View Post

I don't think you are realizing what stroke of genius this is though. They have these lowly k20 cores with no market cuz they do not meet the tdp factors. What to do with them now? Nothing for a longtime. Holy cow, we can neuter the chips so they cannot challenge the real k20s, then sell them in an entirely different market space. It's brilliant if it works out however it's bad cuz they know they can get away with it. For the company it is a good plan obviously.

That's not new. The GTX 670 is a cut-down 680, just like the 570 was a cut-down 680. They bin the parts and use the clunkers in the next lower bracket. Changing the product space is new, I guess, but the idea is old.
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Originally Posted by Usario View Post

GF110 was mainstream because NVIDIA decided it's worth $500. GK110 isn't mainstream because NVIDIA wanted to charge more.

That's your logic.

GF110 and GK110 are very similar as far as classification goes. Giant >500mm^2 dies, the fastest performing of their generation, 384-bit bus, 48 ROPs, etc...

Please explain to me how you know that GK110 is somehow anywhere near twice as costly to produce as GF110.

Explain to me how you know that is isn't?

They decided that GK110 wasn't going to be mainstream because they realized that it was too expensive to produce to be mainstream.
 
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Hey everybody, look!

GTX 690 drops in price!

See, it's only $998.50 now, Titan is already having an impact! biggrin.gif
post #824 of 1636
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Originally Posted by Mad Pistol View Post

No and no.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133347 <- GTX 580 in quadro form

Have you done any research on this?

Why is it no and no?

And yes.
 
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Nintendo games cost $70+ back in the late 80s, early 90s. Should games now cost 10 grand since the graphics are so much better??? Man, some of you guys have some weird logic.

Things don't magically get more expensive because they're "better" than the previous generation. That's not how things work, or else we'd be paying millions for Toyota Camry.
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In for two lol not.
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Originally Posted by GoldenTiger View Post

Yep, pretend "high-horse" nose snubbing is pretty hilarious. You're spot-on, of course, but they won't admit it.
are you telling me there are people who run out and buy GPUs so they show off to anonymous people on the internet?

That's pathetic ... and horrible reason to buy a TITAN, hell probably the worst.
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Price of stuff is going up... deal with it.

Gold has gone up
Copper has gone up
Silver has gone up
Oil has gone up
Everything has gone up.

High end products are going to cost money.

Gold over 30 years:
snip

We had a nice chunk in time where tech was cheap and a lot of tech still is but with companies moving away from certain things. Niche, ethusiast, NON MAINSTREAM items are going to be expensive.

Yep, the US dollar has inflated 100% over the past couple years. rolleyes.gif

The Titan is only a niche product because of its price.
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Originally Posted by deafboy View Post

Explain to me how you know that is isn't?

They decided that GK110 wasn't going to be mainstream because they realized that it was too expensive to produce to be mainstream.

Do you seriously think GK110, which has a size similar to that of GF110 and seems to be getting decent yields in its 1-SMX-disabled form, costs twice as much as GF110?
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Price of stuff is going up... deal with it.

Gold has gone up
Copper has gone up
Silver has gone up
Oil has gone up
Everything has gone up.

High end products are going to cost money.

Gold over 30 years:


We had a nice chunk in time where tech was cheap and a lot of tech still is but with companies moving away from certain things. Niche, ethusiast, NON MAINSTREAM items are going to be expensive.

precious metals like gold / silver cannot be compared with semiconductor chips. this kind of comparison is ridiculous. a gold bar is going to be the same even 100 years later. suppose you buy up gold bars and leave it for your future generations you know they are going to be valuable. try the same with a GK110 or Intel core i7 3960x. it will be not even worth the mud (source of silicon) they are made from .
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Why is it no and no?

And yes.

Every big nvidia die has a quadro and geforce part. GK110 is no exception. GK110 is not special. It's just another big-die nvidia GPU.
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