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1) Please give a source for stating that the GTX700 series samples went out in Q4? I've done searches, but haven't seen anything definitive on the GTX700 series release. Also, if possible, I would appreciate any information as to whether the GTX780/770 will have the same GPU computing restrictions as the GTX680 or have an "enable" option as per Titan.

2) Assuming samples were out in Q4, the when would you expect release of the GTX780?

3) Assuming that the GTX780 computing power is restricted per 680GTX (so maybe equal to GTX580?), what alternatives to a Titan would you suggest for me (monitor 2560x1600 -> see sig for rest) if GPU computing is equally important as gaming and majority (maybe all) of GPU compute software doesn't work/work well with Radeon cards.

Thanks

1) No and no comment.

2) No comment.

3) No comment.

I'm just calling it the "780" because that's a common term that you'll all understand -- As always, you'll have to wait and see what Nvidia does but, this card was not made for the common market...It fits the private sector market, quite perfectly, where it is and //will// make Nvidia serious cash in that market along with many in the public sector filling out the rest of the orders.
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1) No and no comment.

2) No comment.

3) No comment.

I'm just calling it the "780" because that's a common term that you'll all understand -- As always, you'll have to wait and see what Nvidia does but, this card was not made for the common market...It fits the private sector market, quite perfectly, where it is and //will// make Nvidia serious cash in that market along with many in the public sector filling out the rest of the orders.

Do you run a review website or do you have knowledge of this through other means?
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Tom's Hardware's "conclusion" really has me worried:

It doesnt bother me murlocke because toms is a joke anymore.
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It doesnt bother me murlocke because toms is a joke anymore.

Yeah they have that old guy that rants about how hes been an IT Pro for 25 years but can't hook a printer up to his new Toshiba, and bad mouths them.

Then he bumps the story for 3 days.
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Tom's Hardware's "conclusion" really has me worried:

I was saying that before it was even posted by Tom's.

For the same price-point, until the 7-series launches, you CAN do better.

If you're folding, clearly this is a nice option but, if you're not folding, or researching or legitimately utilizing the Tesla capabilities of the card, then, IMO, you've just wasted @ $500 because you could have, for the same cash, had 30% better performance even without OC'ing.

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Do you run a review website or do you have knowledge of this through other means?

I own an enthusiast computer business that does private builds / private sector builds and network design/implementation...Have been independent of Alienware for about a year now.
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Tom's Hardware's "conclusion" really has me worried:

Saw that when the "preview was posted, but there's been enough positive comments to make me think Tom's conclusion is not definitive. Probably couldn't go into more detail, but "remains the single fastest single card solution" doesn't help much. At all resolutions? By how much? 1%, 10%, 20%? 5% faster w/ less GPU computing isn't a "better value" for me. Really hope the NDA expires at midnight GMT so we can get some definitive information ASAP.
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I was saying that before it was even posted by Tom's.

For the same price-point, until the 7-series launches, you CAN do better.

If you're folding, clearly this is a nice option but, if you're not folding, or researching or legitimately utilizing the Tesla capabilities of the card, then, IMO, you've just wasted @ $500 because you could have, for the same cash, had 30% better performance even without OC'ing.
I own an enthusiast computer business that does private builds / private sector builds and network design/implementation...Have been independent of Alienware for about a year now.

What do ya build buddy? Desktops or servers or supercomputers like the titan?
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I would like to address this because although, you had good intentions, you're missing a tremendous amount of information about this card.

This card, wasn't meant for the commercial buyer.

The ultimate reality of this "offering" is that it wasn't meant for you and me, thus the price-point.

This card was aimed at researchers and actually follows a line of currently available Tesla products that are really only available to the private sector.

Titan was a way that Nvidia could publicly release this product and give it at a price point to those that would have need of it.

It just so happens that, it performs, well but, once again, this wasn't their entire focus.

This card wasn't meant to be a gaming rig, primary/secondary card -- They just ultimately decided since it performed so well, they could make a few more bucks...And they are.

Largely, you won't see this card in people's rigs because, contrary to popular belief, the 7 series samples went out in Q4 so...We're not jumping all of Titan for a reason...But, some will...You will however, see this card in mass in universities, doctors offices, businesses...In fact, to my knowledge, just based on pre-orders and other contracts, Alpha/Beta are sold out, and they're now on Gamma/Delta.

So while some people here, will buy this card to game on, they're doing so blindly where as those whom need this card, will buy it at it's price-point because the next cheapest card AIMED at their market is about $2500-$3000.

I've been in this business now for about 9 years and experience has taught me that people are ready/willing even in a bad economy, to throw their money away faster then it comes in. Some here will use this card as a "status symbol", brag that they have it...Then complain when the 780 comes out because it's almost equal performance for half the price. - Then the cycle will repeat and repeat and repeat.

This is so full of wrong...

The few software suites you could make an argument for using this card in those industries have specific need for ECC memory accuracy (medical/lab modeling without error correction?? really??), the 1 big thing this card has removed from it. Try Ctrix/MS VM grid arrays, data transfer and parallel I/O performance, and M9000 mainframe performance for those industries. If your going to make wide stroke generalizations you should at least be in the right demographic. Those industries don't give a tit about 1500$ difference if they are going to use Tesla level compute, they purchase in the 100k's to 1mill's per project. Take it from someone who IS in the those industries.

There's nothing stopping anyone from buying a Tesla (Newegg even throws in free shipping!) so saying the Titan is for the research plebeians is just uninformed.

The rest of your comments just pander to telling people what not to do with their money, or jealousy that you can't spend yours on this card.

Titan will be what it is marketed as. A boutique-level card aimed at x2x3x4 sli configurations for the 0.1% gaming community. It's doing exactly what its suppose to, generate a froth of PR, tons of web traffic and keep the graphics market warm (and NV stock holders) till 7xx series comes out since they now have time to burn with ATI market schedule slipping.

So many of these arguments are moot. It all comes down to 1 thing. Buy the most graphics card(s) YOU can AFFORD. If you know your system then you know you should be investing in the rest of the build (mobo/cpu/PW) before you take on top tier cards (ARIES, TITAN, 690, etc). It's ironic since everyone was falling over themselves about how poor price/performance the 690 was, now Titan is the black sheep for that talk.

The card is an impressive engineering sample, people have been asking for a GK110 gaming GPU since the chip was created.

...and really? your on the OCN network, bragging about 9...9! years in the industry, then pointing the finger about people claiming "status" symbols? There's people on OCN that don't have their drivers licenses yet that have more industry experience than that.

/back_to_lurking
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Saw that when the "preview was posted, but there's been enough positive comments to make me think Tom's conclusion is not definitive. Probably couldn't go into more detail, but "remains the single fastest single card solution" doesn't help much. At all resolutions? By how much? 1%, 10%, 20%? 5% faster w/ less GPU computing isn't a "better value" for me. Really hope the NDA expires at midnight GMT so we can get some definitive information ASAP.

9 Am tomorrow is when i believe the NDA drops
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Tom's Hardware's "conclusion" really has me worried:

That's what I've been saying for several pages now. The Titan should not be priced at $1000. It simply does not make sense at that price point. What's even more ludicrous is that even at that price point, many people will still buy the thing, which gives nvidia the green light to try similar ventures in the future. GK104 at $500 worked. It worked because nvidia gimped compute and went straight for raw gaming performance. AMD, on the other hand, took an approach to create a fast gaming card AND compute card. Because of this, GCN cards are less efficient than kepler cards when it comes to power draw. At the same time, a 7970 has more compute power than virtually any other single GPU card on the market. It probably has more than Titan too (no reviews to confirm or deny this yet)

Titan is cool, but it's not some god-sent card like everyone believes it is. As expected, a GTX 690 is still the faster card.
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