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post #1 of 23
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Hi all. I'd like some help (in the way of advice or links to other sources) on my first overclocking attempt. I've read through numerous forums and guides.

Here is my hardware:
G. Skill 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 800 F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231087
Abit AB9-Pro Socket T Intel P965 Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813127004
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Processor Stock Cooling http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115005
Hiper 580w power supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817128001



My other hardware that probably doesn't matter:
XFX Geforce 8800 GTS 640MB Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150204
Soundblaster X-Fi XtremeGamer http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102006
Samsung Spinpoint P 250GB hard drives (2) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152025
Wireless ethernet card (sorry no link)

Help with any of these questions would be very appreciated:
An overclocking guide that uses my mobo (AB9-Pro)
An idea from people with similar setups of what settings worked for them
Some good values to start with
An idea of what NOT to do
What range to play with voltage on the CPU and the memory (I gather that is the easiest way to fry things)
One guide I read recommends rebooting as a fast way to figure out if a setting is worth testing more, ABit has a windows based overclocking utility. What's the equivalent way to perform a fast (not 2 hour) test as I change settings?
Any preference on using the uGuru windows utility over using the bios?
Should I be worried about affecting my other PCI cards?

Here are some of my thoughts after reading up on this:
I shouldn't try timings other than 4-4-4-12 on my memory, they won't work.
I should raise settings and then boot windows over and over to get an idea of what I can achieve.
Only after I have a setting that boots should I try running more rigorous tests.
I'm planning on overclocking my videocard only after getting the CPU/Memory in order (I'll head over to the videocard forum for that I guess). If you have any good links for that I'd still love to see them....


Thanks for any and all help or suggestions,
Jonoo
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post #2 of 23
I dont have much info on intel OC'ing, however i think you should invest in a new psu before you OC. 580w would be a bit risky for an OC especially with that beast. Iced
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post #3 of 23
You'll most likely need better then stock cooling. Look at the Scythe Ninja, Tunic Tower, Zalman 9700, they are all good value performers.
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post #4 of 23
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First, thanks for the immediate suggestions.

Do other people think I need a bigger power supply? I'm buying this one to upgrade from my 430w antec truepower. This one has 38 amps on the 12 volt rail (that's where the MB pulls from right?), which is way more than my video card recommends (400w power supply with 26a on 12v). I am obviously not going SLI with this MB.

How much performance increase would you project by investing $60 in one of those heat sinks? I've read about people getting decent results with stock (2.8ghz at 60c load). <---- Not my result, I havn't set this up yet.
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post #5 of 23
i think that psu will be fine. and 60c is a bit hot for that chip, try and get it below 50 by investing in some better cooling.
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post #6 of 23
Thats PSU is probably more than enough for a C2D rig, I think you should get one of the heatsinks mentioned above instead.

Oh and where did you get the power/amp specification for that GPU?
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post #7 of 23
For, $90, you can get a better powersupply. Hiper has never really struck me as a quality company....decent, but there are better options for your dollar.

Ernemax Noisetaker 485W

Quiet and efficient. I'd trust this over that Hyper...even with the less amounts of wattage.

Sun Beam NUO

A proven PSU. Solid, yet inefficient.
    
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post #8 of 23
the PSU is fine. But, get a scythe infinity and then think about overclocking.
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post #9 of 23
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Just to clarify, power/amp specification is the recommendation for the entire system (not just the video card). I can't find my original source, here is a link with power requirements for the evga 8800 gts (should be very similar). Note even the GTX only recommends 30a.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/413/6/
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Hiper 580W Antec Mid-Tower Logitech Mx700 
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E6300 AB9 Pro XFX Geforce 8800 GTS 2 GB G Skill PC-6400 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
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