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Greetings Everyone!

I need help in completing my 3M (Micro Mini Monster). I've built my share of PCs over the years, but this time I'm afraid I've run into a virtual wall of issues and obstacles that I can't seem to find solutions to. I'm hoping some of you can help and have the answers I'm looking for.

So far, the components I already have are as follows:

Asus P8Z77-M Pro Micro ATX Motherboard
Intel I7-3770K Processor
Corsair H60 Liquid Cooler (2013 version)
32GB Ballistix Tactical DDR3 RAM (4 sticks of 8GB each)
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD
Seagate 7200 RPM 2TB HD
Two (2) Gygabyte Geforce GTX-660Ti Video Cards (for SLI)
LG Slim Blu-Ray Combo Drive - SATA CT40N
Windows 7 Pro and Ubuntu 12.10 Linux

I bought an In Win BK623 case and have 10 more days to return it.
http://www.in-win.com.tw/products_pccase_series.php?cat_id=1&series_id=42

The only thing smaller is an SFF like the In Win BL140, but it's low profile PCI-E slots are too low.

The following are the problems I face:

Problem 1> I can't find a case similar to this that can take an 850w-1000w ATX Power Supply (PSU)
Problem 2> I can't find a modular 850w-1000w SFX PSU (The size this case actually takes)
Problem 3> I can't find an 850w-1000w ATX PSU that's 150mm deep or less (would solve problem1)
Problem 4> I can't find Right Angle PCI-E 6 Pin adapters (Normal ones won't fit in tight case space)
Problem 5> I can't find an Asus V7 case unless I buy the whole system from Asus (This case fits)

Any help with these problems would be extremely appreciated.

Cordially,

ScoutX
post #2 of 33
Looks like you may need to look into other case possibilities. Maybe broaden your size range by a slight amount.

Also, why 660Ti? There are better cards for the money.
 
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Problem 1> I can't find a case similar to this that can take an 850w-1000w ATX Power Supply (PSU)
Problem 2> I can't find a modular 850w-1000w SFX PSU (The size this case actually takes)
Problem 3> I can't find an 850w-1000w ATX PSU that's 150mm deep or less (would solve problem1)
Problem 4> I can't find Right Angle PCI-E 6 Pin adapters (Normal ones won't fit in tight case space)
Problem 5> I can't find an Asus V7 case unless I buy the whole system from Asus (This case fits)

1. You don't need 850W to drive two 660Tis. A 650W will do even with overclocked 3770K.
2. There isn't any SFX PSU higher than 450W.
3. Gold, modular, 140mm http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=350&area=en, but how does it solve problem 1? Case is still too small.
4. MiniFitJr connector can't be made right angle. The pins are 17mm long and run almost the whole length of the connector.
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All these cases are 2x larger in volume than what the OP linked...

Edit: although OP also mentioned the Asus V7 which is 22 liters.

So, ScoutX, what size do you actually want? 12 liters like the InWin you got, or don't you mind non-SFF like over 20 liters?

Edited by WiSK - 2/19/13 at 8:27am
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And yet I dont see a ton of options for his issues. I was just linking possibilities. And the sugo is definitely not 2x the volume.

There is a reason why he is having issues with such a build in that case. Plus running dual cards in that thing would be pretty bad for temps.
 
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And the sugo is definitely not 2x the volume. ... Plus running dual cards in that thing would be pretty bad for temps.

Sorry yeah SG02 is only 17 liters, and indeed temps are going to be horrible with dual GPUs in any case that's smaller than the SG10.
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And yet I dont see a ton of options for his issues. I was just linking possibilities. And the sugo is definitely not 2x the volume.

There is a reason why he is having issues with such a build in that case. Plus running dual cards in that thing would be pretty bad for temps.

Yeah, I'd definetly go with a more expensive single card solution as opposed to 2 lesser cards, which will draw more power and produce more heat and noise.

Also, what are you using this thing for?
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Yeah, I'd definetly go with a more expensive single card solution as opposed to 2 lesser cards, which will draw more power and produce more heat and noise.

Also, what are you using this thing for?

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Greetings Everyone!

Thanks for all the responses. I didn't expect so many so soon.

In order to answer your questions and reply coherently without losing my frame of thought I'll answer most of them with this message.

In response to Biorganic: The reason I'm using two GTX-660Ti cards is because I already had them. I rather not spend more money when I already have two decent cards.
Also, I know about the other cases that are larger than this one and are Micro ATX. I was just seeing if anyone could find one similar to this size first.
And you are 100% right as far as options go. I've spent several days looking at alternative cases I may have to settle on, and it looks like I'll be doing just that. Unless someone on Ebay is willing to sell off his V7 ASUS Case.

In Response to Wisk: I already have 2 660Ti card smile.gif, just saving some money.
Gotcha on the SFX limitation as well. It was worth a try, being that it's 2013, I was hoping someone would've invented one by now.
As for the 650w Silverstone Gold PSU, Yes it's 140mm in depth, but it's only the 650w. The higher Watt versions are all 180mm. 650w is not enough to power overclocked I7-3770k + 2 overclocked 660Ti cards plus a 2TB 7200 rpm Seagate Drive. Everyone I've talked to and most of the overclock articles I've read say 750 minimum for that setup. Or am I completely wrong on this?
You're also correct about the Right Angle pin setup on the PCI-E 6 pin connectors. However, I did find a possible adapter available which i'll be checking into very soon on Ebay> http://compare.ebay.com/like/130750508977?_lwgsi=y&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar#
I was looking to put this system into the smallest Case I could find just to see if I could get it to work, plusw a little self gratification if i could pull it off.

In Response to Purger and LegendOfVirgil: If I had the money, I would be doing SLI with the top Nivida cards smile.gif I here you, but my wallet is deaf!
What inspired me to do this was actually a PC that's made by Falcon-Northwest called the Tiki. Although it is a 3.8 inch wide SFF mini ITX case. They still managed to put in a full size video card horizontally as well as a 120mm liquid cooler. Not too shabby for such a small case.
As for Heat issues. I planned on using a bunch of low profile fans plus the liquid cooler, and drill a few exrtra holes for more ventilation.

Or I can just get either a Rosewill LINE-M Micro-ATX Mini Tower or the Fractal Design ARC Mini both of which can use the Corsair H00i or the upcoming Swiftech H220 Liquid Coolers. But that's only if fate doesn't present me with a case similar in size than this one but only little larger so I have room for the PSU and Standard PCI-E Connectors. sigh.
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