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Unfortunately mine is 2.0, http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3423#ov

So if I get another motherboard should I just get another Gigabyte but 3.1 rev?
Would this work? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128514
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Unfortunately mine is 2.0, http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3423#ov

So if I get another motherboard should I just get another Gigabyte but 3.1 rev?
Would this work? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128514
Yes it will, but if you are looking for something cheaper and still good. Look at BIOSTAR TA990FXE.
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Unfortunately mine is 2.0, http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3423#ov

So if I get another motherboard should I just get another Gigabyte but 3.1 rev?
Would this work? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128514

The new board you listed should do the job just fine (latest version seems to be 3.0).
I'm currently looking at getting the Gigabyte GA-970 UD3 ($99), seem to do the job if your only on planning on using one graphics card.
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Lol i came here expecting to see the words ddr2, athlon and dual core. That phenom is begging for an overclock (should get to atleast 3.5ghz with ease), at which should handle not only your gtx660ti but handle it in sli.

The improvement you see from the fx series will be marginal more so in rendering less so in gaming if any in gaming. Intel are the way to go at the moment but if i was you id hold off on an upgrade a while longer(save up for a beast machine in the meantime).

have a look at my system in my sig, we have similar performing systems yet im not planning an upgrade for year+ lol as its perfect for renders and gaming.
    
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Lol i came here expecting to see the words ddr2, athlon and dual core. That phenom is begging for an overclock (should get to atleast 3.5ghz with ease), at which should handle not only your gtx660ti but handle it in sli.

The improvement you see from the fx series will be marginal more so in rendering less so in gaming if any in gaming. Intel are the way to go at the moment but if i was you id hold off on an upgrade a while longer(save up for a beast machine in the meantime).

have a look at my system in my sig, we have similar performing systems yet im not planning an upgrade for year+ lol as its perfect for renders and gaming.

I have been able to successfully overclock it to 3.3 but when I tried 3.5 it didn't work. I think it presented a quick blue screen and restarted itself when I changed it to 3.5 so I got scared and brought it back down to 3.3, lol. It was a couple months ago and my first time overclocking, I eventually just brought it back down to default because of the combination of a couple people saying overclocking it doesn't do much and not noticing any difference. When it was 3.3 I didn't notice any real difference but it handled the heat just fine, liquid cooling ftw I guess. Would it be something to do with the voltage or my motherboard or something that didn't let it go to 3.5? Also, the turbo on this card is 3.3, that could explain why I didn't notice much difference as I do play graphically intense games often that may push it up to 3.3 so I could be used to that already. I want to upgrade it because I can't maintain a simple 60 frames on World of Warcraft... the 9 year old game... with my god damn $300 GTX 660 Ti. That is what frustrates me the most, the frame dropping (usually around 30-40 fps) in WoW because it's a load of ****. I figure WoW is more CPU intensive so I need to upgrade my CPU. I don't play WoW that much anymore so that's not the point right now, really. What can I do to overclock to 3.5? Or am I limited to 3.3 because of my mobo? I've heard of having to increase voltage, I've also heard if you mess with voltage everything will immediately explode. Keep in mind I have roughly zero experience with overclocking, I was able to get it to 3.3 because I watched a tutorial, so if anybody tries to explain something to me, please do it in normal, easily recognized terms, lol.
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Pushing your voltages up is perfectly fine as long as you stay within a safe range(which for our thurban cpus is anything under 1.50v) did you get 3.3ghz on stock voltage? if so thats a good sign, you can safely bump the vcore (cpu voltage) up 1.45v, in your case id chuck it at 1.40v and slowly start pushing the clock speed up, as for WoW i havn't played it but your right in it being cpu bound, i would imagion that wow only untilizes at max 4 cores, and with you cpu at stock 2.7?ghz its gonna struggle, inwhich you should get noticly higher fps as you increase your overclock, a google search showed someone getting 3.8ghz(which would be a massive performance boost) at 1.47v

If your worried pushing the volts up(i was two the first time) their are plenty of thurban overclocking guides around that go into much more detail.
    
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Pushing your voltages up is perfectly fine as long as you stay within a safe range(which for our thurban cpus is anything under 1.50v) did you get 3.3ghz on stock voltage? if so thats a good sign, you can safely bump the vcore (cpu voltage) up 1.45v, in your case id chuck it at 1.40v and slowly start pushing the clock speed up, as for WoW i havn't played it but your right in it being cpu bound, i would imagion that wow only untilizes at max 4 cores, and with you cpu at stock 2.7?ghz its gonna struggle, inwhich you should get noticly higher fps as you increase your overclock, a google search showed someone getting 3.8ghz(which would be a massive performance boost) at 1.47v

If your worried pushing the volts up(i was two the first time) their are plenty of thurban overclocking guides around that go into much more detail.

Alright, thanks a lot. I did get 3.3 on stock voltage I believe. I'll push it up to 1.45 and try 3.5. Is that google search of someone with the same CPU?
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And what kind of cooling do you have again? I didn't see any specifics...it's not really that hard to get over the 3.5-4.0GHZ plateau if you have water. (i.e. H60 up to H100 series or any closed water loop) The main dilemma is to save the cash and bump your clock speed. Start at 1.45v core volts.
I would...
1) run the lowest RAM speed the board can start with( leave the timings to Auto
2) Start at 260HTT then start raising the FSB/HTT in +5 increments ( the board should adjust the timings as the mem speed increases)

I havent had the joy of putting water on any of my AMDs...yet but a good air cooler can do this...
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2174152 thumb.gif
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http://www.overclock.net/t/777378/offcial-gappos-little-deneb-thuban-overclocking-guide-with-too-many-smileys ---- looks like a good guide, dont have time to read it tho, main things to watch out for with overclocking is voltage and temprature for thubans 60c is the max temp(use software like speedfan to monitor temprature and we use software like prime95 to get 100% usage out of the cpu to test for stablility and also too see what the max temp your cpu will hit under these unrealistic loads (which means no other software/ game will push your cpu past 60c ))

For under 1.45v you should be fine with watercooling regardless but always keep an eye on your temps with a new overclock.

you should be aiming for about 4ghz, keep bumping the clockspeed up until stuff becomes unstable(run a prime95 test, aswell as the games etc you would normally play) then drop it back down a bit and you've found your new overclock.
    
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http://www.overclock.net/t/777378/offcial-gappos-little-deneb-thuban-overclocking-guide-with-too-many-smileys ---- looks like a good guide, dont have time to read it tho, main things to watch out for with overclocking is voltage and temprature for thubans 60c is the max temp(use software like speedfan to monitor temprature and we use software like prime95 to get 100% usage out of the cpu to test for stablility and also too see what the max temp your cpu will hit under these unrealistic loads (which means no other software/ game will push your cpu past 60c ))

For under 1.45v you should be fine with watercooling regardless but always keep an eye on your temps with a new overclock.

you should be aiming for about 4ghz, keep bumping the clockspeed up until stuff becomes unstable(run a prime95 test, aswell as the games etc you would normally play) then drop it back down a bit and you've found your new overclock.

So I went to go overclock it to 3.5 yesterday using the same tutorial as before and I got all the other settings about right, according to the video anyway, but I didn't get exact instructions on how to change the voltage, so I threw it all back to default. At the bottom of the picture it says Normal CPU Vcore - 1.4760V which sounds a whole lot like what it would be at right now, now that I think of it that seems like the max safe voltage. So, I downloaded SpeedFan and it shows my Vcore1 at 1.30V basically, but it changes, like it's at 1.22 right now. Vcore2 is 1.50v. For some reason a few programs pick up my CPU temperature as exactly 80 degrees... and it never changes. Core Temp, however, shows the right temp which is currently 20 degrees with a max of 25. Core Temp also shows my voltage as the same as Vcore1 did in SpeedFan, so I assume that's really what my voltage is thankfully.

Here are the pictures of my BIOS, SpeedFan and Core Temp: http://imgur.com/a/6NrY8

The tutorial I've been using: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1tCqg3uDjQ
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