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So i'm in the market for tenkeyless and i'm looking so far @ the blackwidow tournament or the cm quickfire. I really want the duck dragon shine but it 160 =(. I'm currently using a deck legend with mx clears, and i've used a steelseries 6g before so i know the feel of black switches too. I've only gotten to sample blue switches, but not red or brown. Any recommendation.
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There are many tenkeyless keyboards to recommend here. But since being moderately cheap is in the topic title, and truly cheap does not exist when it comes to mechanical keyboards, I think the Cooler Master Storm Quickfire is a great choice if you can live with the branding.

I mean, I use a Filco Majestouch 2 Tenkeyless, and have tried the Cooler Master Storm Quickfire with the same mechanical switches. The Filco is about TWICE the price of the CM where I live, and I had a really hard time finding any differences between the two. This made me believe that when it comes to value in a tenkeyless keyboard, which is what you care about, the Cooler Master Storm Quickfire is really hard to beat. I would even say that when you are looking at value for mechanical keyboards in general, it is one of the better deals you can find. It also has the benefit of being available in different type of switches.

About the mechanical switches, it is always hard to recommend anything since people can be so specific in their preferences. I have not used MX clears unfortunately, but have used all other types of switches. If you tell me what you like/ dislike about the clears, and what you like/dislike about the blacks, then I can try giving a recommendation (though of course, there is no substitute for actually trying). For example, did you like the linear feel of the blacks over the tactile feel of the clears? And how about force required to press a button, did it feel better with the blacks or with the clears?

Generally I could say that both Clears and blacks require a fair amount of force to press. Being a fan of reds and browns myself, I would always opt for the latter two because they feel easier to use in gaming and more satisfying to type on as well as easier on the hands (for me). I like a light switch, and while tactility is nice, it bothers me in some games when it is too pronounced.
Edited by kazuyamishima - 2/20/13 at 2:17am
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hmm brown and red are neither clicky and tactile. I like the blues feeling when typing and the sound they make.
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hmm brown and red are neither clicky and tactile. I like the blues feeling when typing and the sound they make.

I did a bad job of explaining things. Reds are linear and very light. Browns are not as light (though still light) and have only a slight tactile " bump" to them. Similar to the blues, only less pronounced. Think of reds as very light blacks, and of browns as lighter blues with a more subtle tactile feedback.
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I did a bad job of explaining things. Reds are linear and very light. Browns are not as light (though still light) and have only a slight tactile " bump" to them. Similar to the blues, only less pronounced. Think of reds as very light blacks, and of browns as lighter blues with a more subtle tactile feedback.
ahh, hrmm i'll give them a try again today. So general consensus is if i want a tenkeyless under 80 should be a CM storm. There is nothing like blues except blues. Lastly what if i was to increase my budget to say 130-150
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ahh, hrmm i'll give them a try again today. So general consensus is if i want a tenkeyless under 80 should be a CM storm. There is nothing like blues except blues. Lastly what if i was to increase my budget to say 130-150

Increasing the budget gives you some other options. Including

Leopold
http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,tenkeyless&pid=fc200rcab

Filco (depending on shipping costs)
http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_details.asp?PRODUCT=835

The upcoming WASD V2
http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/blog/v2preview/

Ducky shine II (available in different colors backlighting)
http://tigerimports.net/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=13439

Those are the most straightforward options from the top of my head. But probably not all options available to you.
post #8 of 9
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went back today to test blue and red. After typing with blue for a bit i realize they feel real good for general use, but the keypress when gaming seems a bit to deep. Reds have no feedback but are smooth for spamming. No brown were avail to test though. =(. Right now my deck legend is MX clear and i enjoy using them, but i can't tell what they are like since they are neither blue or black.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mistax View Post

There is nothing like blues except blues.

Greens are blues with stiffer springs. They're awesome.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mistax View Post

went back today to test blue and red. After typing with blue for a bit i realize they feel real good for general use, but the keypress when gaming seems a bit to deep. Reds have no feedback but are smooth for spamming. No brown were avail to test though. =(. Right now my deck legend is MX clear and i enjoy using them, but i can't tell what they are like since they are neither blue or black.

Clear's are basically stiffer browns with a more pronounced bump that actuates around 65 cN if I remember right and then sharply increases to 100+ cN (!) to bottom out.
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