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My sig rig mouse finally broke and I need a new mouse

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Budget: less than $60-65

update:
right handed. doesn't matter if it's ambidextrous or right handed
i think i prefer light to medium weight. this i'm unsure of. i'll say doesn't matter for now
i use a crappy purple mouse pad i got from college with bunch of printed words on it. plastic surface i think. i also have another mouse pad with a black cloth surface with gel underneath. a 3rd option could be the desk surface
i want a durable mouse that can withstand lots of clicking
extra buttons for my thumb, extra buttons elsewhere is ok except for the pinky
precise, accurate, reliable, fast sensor
adjustable weight is a bonus
my place is dusty so if it can work around that then that's a bonus

i've used microsoft intellimouse 3.0 and thermaltake tt esports black mainly. the tt black didn't have a precise accurate sensor. i struggled when playing games such as cs or minesweeper. i don't remember much about the intellimouse. haven't used it for years. but i do remember that i wanted its successor to be faster (does that mean higher sensitivity or something?)

update 2:
smooth scrolling wheel is a bonus
side scrolling is a bonus
updated budget ^
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Some of my favorite palm grip mice are the Mionix Naos 5000 or 8200, Deathadder, Roccat Kone+, or even the G700 thumb.gif
    
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Love the Deathadder.
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Not really enough info to go on to be honest. All you will get in the responses is people suggesting whatever they own or what their own preference happens to be.

Just a few questions

-Do you prefer ambidextrous symmetrical mice or ergonomic ones shaped to the hand (the latter is not always more comfortable)
-Does weight matter? And do you play low or high sensitivity?
-What kind of surface do you use? (not all sensors track well on all surfaces)
-Are you looking specifically for the most accurate and reliable sensor, or are there other features you are after (such as extra buttons etc.)
-Which mice have you used in the past? What did you like/dislike about them?

I think that by answering those, you will be able to get a much more meaningful response. Needless to say, there are tons of viable options out there. But a mouse that is perfect for some people may be terrible for others.
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Originally Posted by kazuyamishima View Post

Not really enough info to go on to be honest. All you will get in the responses is people suggesting whatever they own or what their own preference happens to be.

Just a few questions

-Do you prefer ambidextrous symmetrical mice or ergonomic ones shaped to the hand (the latter is not always more comfortable)
-Does weight matter? And do you play low or high sensitivity?
-What kind of surface do you use? (not all sensors track well on all surfaces)
-Are you looking specifically for the most accurate and reliable sensor, or are there other features you are after (such as extra buttons etc.)
-Which mice have you used in the past? What did you like/dislike about them?

I think that by answering those, you will be able to get a much more meaningful response. Needless to say, there are tons of viable options out there. But a mouse that is perfect for some people may be terrible for others.
thanks for helping with that. i wasn't sure what else to say to help suggestions
-i'm right handed. doesn't matter if it's ambidextrous or right handed. although i do prefer more than just the typical 3 buttons (the 2 main buttons and wheel click) and i would usually use the thumb to press those extra buttons
-i think i prefer light to medium weight. this i'm unsure of. i'll say doesn't matter for now
-i use a crappy purple mouse pad i got from college with bunch of printed words on it. plastic surface i think. i also have another mouse pad with a black cloth surface with gel underneath. a 3rd option could be the desk surface
-i want a durable mouse that can withstand lots of clicking. extra buttons. precise, accurate, reliable, fast sensor. adjustable weight is a bonus. my place is dusty so if it can work around that then that's a bonus
-i've used microsoft intellimouse 3.0 and thermaltake tt esports black mainly. occasionally a few laptop or cheap mice in between. the tt black didn't have a precise accurate sensor. i struggled when playing games such as cs or minesweeper. i don't remember much about the intellimouse. haven't used it for years. but i do remember that i wanted its successor to be faster (does that mean higher sensitivity or something?)
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I would check out Logitech G400, G500 and Zowie brand mice. thumb.gif
     
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what's the difference between logitech g400 and g500? they both have good reviews and they're both cheap
and how do zowie mice compare to the g400 and g500?
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what's the difference between logitech g400 and g500? they both have good reviews and they're both cheap
and how do zowie mice compare to the g400 and g500?

The g400 is the replacement for the old MX518. I have a MX518 that is around 5 years old and still using it daily. It is an optical mouse.
The G500 is a laser mouse with changeable weight.
I have personally had really good luck with Logitech products, I own 7 products and none have failed yet.


Zowie mice are supposed to be good quality, but I have not owned one yet. I know several of the mice are optical and I think they have one laser mouse. They are supposed to be no frills gaming mice.



EDIT: My only complaint about the Logitech mice is the rubber coating. It gets funky after a while, then one day I was cleaning one and noticed the coating started coming off. Now that the rubber coating is basically all worn off, I like it better. I wish they would just scrap that damn coating.
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I use a Logitech G600 which I find very comfortable. Very light weight. However I think you may enjoy a R.A.T 7 or R.A.T 9 from Saitek as they are very adjustable; you can adjust weight, length, width and more from what I have heard. Look at some reviews and find something you can afford that meets your requirements. smile.gif
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thanks for helping with that. i wasn't sure what else to say to help suggestions
-i'm right handed. doesn't matter if it's ambidextrous or right handed. although i do prefer more than just the typical 3 buttons (the 2 main buttons and wheel click) and i would usually use the thumb to press those extra buttons
-i think i prefer light to medium weight. this i'm unsure of. i'll say doesn't matter for now
-i use a crappy purple mouse pad i got from college with bunch of printed words on it. plastic surface i think. i also have another mouse pad with a black cloth surface with gel underneath. a 3rd option could be the desk surface
-i want a durable mouse that can withstand lots of clicking. extra buttons. precise, accurate, reliable, fast sensor. adjustable weight is a bonus. my place is dusty so if it can work around that then that's a bonus
-i've used microsoft intellimouse 3.0 and thermaltake tt esports black mainly. occasionally a few laptop or cheap mice in between. the tt black didn't have a precise accurate sensor. i struggled when playing games such as cs or minesweeper. i don't remember much about the intellimouse. haven't used it for years. but i do remember that i wanted its successor to be faster (does that mean higher sensitivity or something?)


I think the Logitech G400 is a great suggestion for you. For the following reasons
-It has an accurate and reliable optical sensor that is not finnicky about the surface you use it on , which is what you want. It does not have any prediction or acceleration issues. Regardless of your level of play, this mouse wont hold you back and many people consider it to be better than the G500 (it is objectively better when it comes to the sensor)
-It has some extra buttons, which you like to have
-It is medium weight at 105 grams. I would consider low weight mice to be around 90 or less, heavy ones around 115+. Doesnt seem much now, but it does when you actually feel it.
-Like the MX518 before it, it is known to be durable. I had a MX518 for something like 6 years. There are many people with a similar story.
* The only possible issue is that you seem to have used almost strictly symmetrical mice in the past that have worked well for you. This one is not symmetrical
* You mention wanting a "fast" sensor. While the max tracking speed will satisfy pretty much anyone, if that is what you mean by fast, the DPI is lower than that of mice with laser sensors. Though 3.600 Dpi should satisfy even high sensitivity gamers.

Another option would be the Razer Deathadder
-Again, accurate reliable optical sensor
-Extra buttons
-Medium weight
-Not truly ambidextrous, but generally pretty symmetrical shape that you are used to
-Now with High DPI sensor
*Possible issues with durability (the mouse-wheel has always been an issue with the deathadders, could be fixed in the newer versions)
*Not sure whether the new 4G sensor is as good as the 3G and 3.5G before it. You'd have to check for this

Finally yet another option would be the Steelseries Sensei or Sensei RAW
-Medium weight
-Extra buttons
-Shaped like the intellimouse and truly ambidextrous which worked well for you before
-No issues with durability that I know of
-Allows high DPI
*Sensor is not as good as the previous suggestions. Known acceleration problems, though no jitter or prediction.

There are also tons of other options, but I thought I would just suggest three generally popular and well liked options that differ in shape but all provide the things you want.
Other mice with good sensors and traditional shapes that you might want to check out are the mice that Zowie makes. I have emphasized optical sensors because sensor quality was an important thing for you and seems to be the biggest reason you are looking for a gaming mouse.
Edited by kazuyamishima - 2/21/13 at 12:38am
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