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A little too late?
Didn't AMD announce they are no longer competing with Intel in the discreet CPU market?
Any other discreet AMD CPU's in the works beyond FX8350?
Is the CPU competition back on?
     
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Well something isn't right...AMD is getting utilization across all threads and the Intel CPUs are basically acting like HT is disabled. They just have a tiny tick showing on one or a two cores. Unless affinity is set I don't think it matters if it is a logical core or an actual core...as far as the software is concerned a thread is a thread and if a thread is open and the software is designed to use multiple threads it will use them. So that is a little fishy.

However, I think there should be enough evidence to show that if you are gaming on one or two GPUs...it doesn't really matter if you go with a 3770k or a FX8350...you aren't going to see a difference out side of a few frames on a bench. If you can get a AMD CPU and motherboard for less than a Intel CPU and motherboard....just go for it, but typically a good OCing motherboard for AMD will cost you making an Intel system cheaper over all. All depends on how the sales fall and if you can get to a Microcenter.
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The i7-2600k is at 3.4ghz while the dozer is at 4ghz. Its still good and all but we all know the i7 will OC to 4ghz even on stock cooling. I would like to see the benchmarks after that and then with them both OCed to their average max.

We also all know that the FX can go to 4.5Ghz so what?
Also the FX is a good amount cheaper wink.gif
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We also all know that the FX can go to 4.5Ghz so what?
Also the FX is a good amount cheaper wink.gif
and the 2600k can easily get to 4.6+, so what?
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A little too late?
Didn't AMD announce they are no longer competing with Intel in the discreet CPU market?
Any other discreet AMD CPU's in the works beyond FX8350?
Is the CPU competition back on?

Steamrooler for 2014, Smaller processing node (28nm) and some architectural upgrades.
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post #27 of 84
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Steamrooler for 2014, Smaller processing node (28nm) and some architectural upgrades.

Well then I think it's great. Maybe they can turn this around and get back into the game if developers take advantage of AMD's architecture. I almost built one before this one but the performance wasn't there at the time.
     
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Well something isn't right...AMD is getting utilization across all threads and the Intel CPUs are basically acting like HT is disabled. They just have a tiny tick showing on one or a two cores. Unless affinity is set I don't think it matters if it is a logical core or an actual core...as far as the software is concerned a thread is a thread and if a thread is open and the software is designed to use multiple threads it will use them. So that is a little fishy.

However, I think there should be enough evidence to show that if you are gaming on one or two GPUs...it doesn't really matter if you go with a 3770k or a FX8350...you aren't going to see a difference out side of a few frames on a bench. If you can get a AMD CPU and motherboard for less than a Intel CPU and motherboard....just go for it, but typically a good OCing motherboard for AMD will cost you making an Intel system cheaper over all. All depends on how the sales fall and if you can get to a Microcenter.

Wait...you don't mean to say AMD finally pulled an Intel and had people directly or indirectly code against their rival's CPU architecture? Say it ain't so? rolleyes.gif I mean AMD only had to deal with that for how long? Does everyone forget the lovely days of compiler bias and run to crap performance upon IDing rival CPU's Intel did in the past? Hell, I wasn't even into computers that much at the time and I remember that.

Honestly...I still think AMD should have told Intel to suck it and never given them x64. Of course at the time (and even now) we're still hopelessly 32bit dependent. frown.gif
     
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Wait...you don't mean to say AMD finally pulled an Intel and had people directly or indirectly code against their rival's CPU architecture? Say it ain't so? rolleyes.gif I mean AMD only had to deal with that for how long? Does everyone forget the lovely days of compiler bias and run to crap performance upon IDing rival CPU's Intel did in the past? Hell, I wasn't even into computers that much at the time and I remember that.

Honestly...I still think AMD should have told Intel to suck it and never given them x64. Of course at the time (and even now) we're still hopelessly 32bit dependent. frown.gif

Heh, well, chances are the game is still using the Intel compiler and is not using the newer instruction sets on the AMD CPUs because the CPUs aren't in the list of known CPUs. However, this would really take some one going far out of their way to actually block usage of logical cores. I'd be more inclined to believe that the testers were setting affinity to threads or just lying about the results.
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Heh, well, chances are the game is still using the Intel compiler and is not using the newer instruction sets on the AMD CPUs because the CPUs aren't in the list of known CPUs. However, this would really take some one going far out of their way to actually block usage of logical cores. I'd be more inclined to believe that the testers were setting affinity to threads or just lying about the results.
Who knows, in the future I would love to be one of these benchmarkers/testers just as a side hobby and do legitimate tests with no incentives to make my results skewed.
 
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