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I have a 2 month old HP Pavilion G7 2251dx

Here are the specs http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c03561498&cc=ad&dlc=en&lc=en&jumpid=reg_r1002_usen_c-001_title_r0003 ( I have 8 gigs in mine and despite what the specs say Windows reports it can use up to 4048 MB ( 4 gigs) of shared ram for video. )

For the 400 buck price tag I love this pc. It plays all my new games like Black ops 2, Skyrim etc on high settings with fast frame rate. It will be the last HP I ever buy because of the way they are in bed with Microsoft but that's another story.

I recently started using Core Temp and noticed today i'm running the game Bulletstorm on high settings and I have a seamonkey browser open with about 120 tabs open. I normally keep about 300 tabs open so this is slack for me. I noticed the APU got up to 201 F and the TJ Max for the APU is 212. To me that's almost too close for comfort, but I dont know.. is this normal? I can only imagine this thing will start overheating and shutting down and I'm afraid if that happens it will cause heavy wear and tear on the APU.

BTW, In my AMD Vision Engine Control Center I have my CPU Power set to Max, 100%. I noticed this setting was set lower for both plugged in and battery by default and I did not want anything throttling back my APU so i set these to max. I dont know if that was the right thing to do.. but I did it. If i could keep this cool enough i'd try to software overclock it. I dont like that it can only do 1.9 ghz but i could not afford any better pc at the time. ( and it does play nicely everything i throw at it, so if i cant OC it, I'll live with it)

Please give me your thoughts on all my points. Thank you. Opps.. I'd fix Trinity in the title but this forum wont let me.
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unfortunately, there is very little you can do about it in a laptop... so i'd have to say you just use it till it burns out and buy a new one. it's not like you can stick a hyper212 in there to help with cooling biggrin.gif 201F is far too hot to be considered safe tho. you may consider investing in a laptop cooler like this
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I don't know if it's possible with Trinity, but you could undervolt the older Llano mobile APU's using K10STAT. Atleast with the Llano's AMD was setting the voltage much higher than needed for stability.
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Thanks for the answers folks. After posting the above I spent a lot of time searching the in's and outs of getting a laptop cooling pad.. Most people reported the cooler gives them between 5 to 15 degrees more cooling. I came across some tips you can use to help keep your laptop cool with DIY projects http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-cool-diy-ways-laptop-cool/ I tried the easiest one on the list.. using double sided tape to attach two plastic bottle caps to the underside of the laptop. This time the heat didn't get above 170 F while playing the game and the browser open.

I was amazed what a difference this made. I also looked at the tiny grid of holes on the bottom of the laptop. Seems to me this should be much larger. If raising the back legs makes so large of a difference even on this brand new no dust at all in the system laptop, then it begs the question why do laptop designers give you such shallow back legs?

I can only conclude just like the light bulb, ( There is still a light bulb Edison made that is working 24/7 at the Smithsonian - light bulb makers make them to break on purpose so they can sell more) the PC manufacturers do it on purpose to kill your system quicker so you have to buy another.

I would love to see some folks from Overclock.net design a laptop that stays cool.. I bet with the experience you guys have you could give HP a run for their money.
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You bought a HP ... And they are still hot today. I thought HP really designed them now not compaq?
You should have got a Acer ... Cheaper, better and much cooler
HP makes their laptop run at the edge so magically after the 3 year warranty mark they die. (Or worse, the HP tablet i had died every 3 months ... And yes it could be FSB OC'd biggrin.gif i guess somebody can guess it's a TX2028AU, in the past if i ever needed something i just placed into the fridge i just put it at the exhaust of the tablet ... it's ready in 2mins)

Acer not only gives HP a run for their money but is also much more reliable. No idea why Acer is still doing worse than HP all these years
If it was us Overclockies you would see pipes running out of the laptop or a ridiculously thick laptop. For me it's either pipes or a thin 10-20mm height restrictive large surface area Heatsink with a high pressure LOUD fan biggrin.gif
(The pipes methodology does include a tank, pump and a 2x40mm rad or a 60mm rad or even a 80mm rad, maybe even 120mm biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif)
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Originally Posted by Electric Rider View Post

I would love to see some folks from Overclock.net design a laptop that stays cool.. I bet with the experience you guys have you could give HP a run for their money.

laptop designed by OCN folks would NOT stay cool biggrin.gif because it'd be overclocked to desktop speeds biggrin.gif it would be huge and heavy because it'd have a 6 hr GAMING grade battery which in itself would weight more then the laptop:D and the entire chassis would be made of THICK aluminum since the whole laptop would be built onto a 20 pound heatsink tongue.gif

and just when you thought it couldn't get any bigger or heavier, then liquid people would try to bolt a H100 on the back of the display panel biggrin.gif
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laptop designed by OCN folks would NOT stay cool biggrin.gif because it'd be overclocked to desktop speeds biggrin.gif it would be huge and heavy because it'd have a 6 hr GAMING grade battery which in itself would weight more then the laptop:D and the entire chassis would be made of THICK aluminum since the whole laptop would be built onto a 20 pound heatsink tongue.gif

and just when you thought it couldn't get any bigger or heavier, then liquid people would try to bolt a H100 on the back of the display panel biggrin.gif

A laptop designed by OCN would be backpack straps for your rig and under clips for a huge battery, waist mounted keyboard/mouse and shoulder mounted monitor lachen.gif

Oh, and a rear facing camera with a small on screen display to see where they're walking laugher.gif
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laptop designed by OCN folks would NOT stay cool biggrin.gif because it'd be overclocked to desktop speeds biggrin.gif it would be huge and heavy because it'd have a 6 hr GAMING grade battery which in itself would weight more then the laptop:D and the entire chassis would be made of THICK aluminum since the whole laptop would be built onto a 20 pound heatsink tongue.gif

and just when you thought it couldn't get any bigger or heavier, then liquid people would try to bolt a H100 on the back of the display panel biggrin.gif
A 480mm "monsta" rad bolted to the back of it biggrin.gif
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