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post #21 of 68
Looks like AMD probably did/will receive a mass injection of cash as they secured the PS4 and xbox rights.

Good things to come? lets hope so as this is awesome.
post #22 of 68
+15% IPC, twice the cores, twice the cache, vastly improved cores overall...

Jaguar is awesome. Poor Atom.
   
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+15% IPC, twice the cores, twice the cache, vastly improved cores overall...

Jaguar is awesome. Poor Atom.

You are underestimating Intel's 22nm Silvermont Atom with a completely new microarchitecure due for Q4 2013. I would say AMD will have product out earlier by 6 months. But Intel will have the faster CPU. So AMD will have to keep up the pace and get a 20nm Jaguar (Kabini) update in mid 2014. Otherwise AMD might lose out on the last bit of breathing space in the CPU market.
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You are underestimating Intel's 22nm Silvermont Atom with a completely new microarchitecure due for Q4 2013. I would say AMD will have product out earlier by 6 months. But Intel will have the faster CPU. So AMD will have to keep up the pace and get a 20nm Jaguar (Kabini) update in mid 2014. Otherwise AMD might lose out on the last bit of breathing space in the CPU market.

Which from we don't have any info at all besides it being 22nm and a new architecture. thumb.gif

Silvermont will need to be much, and I mean, MUCH faster than current gen Atoms to beat Jaguar. Remember that Bobcat literally trounces the current gen ones.
   
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post #25 of 68
Bobcat, Jaguar, my little tabby, whatever! Its looking good for Amd - 5W - 25W TDP

How low are we going to get? thumb.gif
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Sounds like good news on the PC gaming side, the architecture's capabilities might give developers an initiative to pay more attention to PC ports.

... and to finally doing REAL multi-core programming.
post #27 of 68
Id really like to see how this "jaguar" arch. will change the market.
post #28 of 68
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Originally Posted by almighty15 View Post

It's clocked to low to be of any use

It's still a hell of a lot higher performance than what's in current consoles.
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This is why you still see the 7800GT and HD2900 performance-like cards in current gen consoles rival most modern technologies.

~720p, 25-30fps, and the equivalent of low-medium details is what you generally get on current gen consoles.

It's true that an NVIDIA 7800/7900 cannot do even this in most recent games, but the PS3's Cell provides a not insignificant level of pre and post processing. However, an HD 2900 Pro can actually run many modern titles at such settings, and deliver an experience not far off what you'd get on a console.

A generation or two after these cards, and you have PC hardware that decisively bests consoles in virtually any game that can be compared. This is 2008-2009 hardware, not "modern technologies".

So yeah, while later console releases are fairly impressive given the hardware, your statement is a substantial exaggeration.
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Which from we don't have any info at all besides it being 22nm and a new architecture. thumb.gif

Silvermont will need to be much, and I mean, MUCH faster than current gen Atoms to beat Jaguar. Remember that Bobcat literally trounces the current gen ones.

One look at current Atom architecture should tell you that almost any new architecture should result in enormous improvements. Atom is still a Bonnell based core, and is still attached to the rest of the chip by a FSB.

Honestly, I would not be terribly surprised if Silvermont was ~100% faster than Bonnell at the same power target, simply from knowing how outdated much of Atom currently is.
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One look at current Atom architecture should tell you that almost any new architecture should result in enormous improvements. Atom is still a Bonnell based core, and is still attached to the rest of the chip by a FSB. Honestly, I would not be terribly surprised if Silvermont was ~100% faster than Bonnell at the same power target, simply from knowing how outdated much of Atom currently is.

yeah. Intel 22nm Atom is a quad core cpu with significantly better IPC and a GPU based on ivy bridge graphics tech but with 4 execution units compared to 16 on HD 4000 graphics . so its a massive improvement .

http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/07/intel-atom-bay-trail/
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/29/intel-bay-trail-roadmap-leaked/
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Hopefully this chip will put an end to those 17" Walmart laptops with a E-350 in them.
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