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Originally Posted by CallsignVega View Post

Ug, stuck in meetings all day so my pre-orders at Newegg are like 4 hours late. I am probably so far back on the list I won't have em for a month. mad.gif Hopefully Newegg doesn't cross reference shipping addresses on multiple accounts lol.

Strange this turned into a "pre-order" day and not a launch day. Anyone know the factory clocks on the Asus versus EVGA versions? I notice EVGA has come out with details for their hundred different versions of the same reference card. There should only be two, with and without a waterblock. Slightly changing a factory clock on a reference PCB only card and marketing it as a different version is pretty funny.

Gonna have to read some reviews now to see how Titan is doing at Surround resolutions.

No idea about EVGA but I bought asus and at least according to the listing it had absolutely 100% normal stock clocks. No factory OC like was suggested previously.
 
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post #1012 of 3575
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Not sure if serious.

6970 was on 40nm and the 7970 is on 28nm, that's why the gap is so high.

For the 8970 they don't have extra transistor budget unless they increase the die size, which for AMD is very unlikely.

Im just saying that is possible...
post #1013 of 3575
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Originally Posted by PostalTwinkie View Post

I did subtract the price of the games, that is why Titan is 3x more expensive, and not 3.5x more expensive.

I also didn't say AMD had to make a 30% increase to be in Titans face, but simply a 15% increase with the 8000 series. Now add in the fact that AMD doesn't lock OCers out on their products, yes Titan is still locked after all, and the 8000 series will be staring Titan right in the eyes, for half the cost.

Again, right now....NOT factoring in the value of the games, Titan is close to 3x the cost, if you buy the 7970 right! Factor in the value of the games, it goes to a difference of about 3.5x, for a ~30% gain.....

Really now?

I find it hilarious that you have used an apples to oranges comparison in every one of your examples. How much was a 7970 at realease and how many games did it come with? Adding three games to the mix does not make a 7970 any faster. It makes a better $/performance ratio but we already established that. Its like a punk putting a chevy sticker on the back of their car and expecting it to go faster. We get your opinion. You dont want to buy one because it doesn't represent a great value to you. Congrats. Move along. Keep the forum open for those actually planning to buy one.
post #1014 of 3575
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Originally Posted by Forceman View Post

Unless they know the 780 isn't coming anytime soon, or they completely misjudged the competitive market.

The HardOCP review mentioned that they think Nvidia launched this card to counter an expected move by AMD, and then when AMD didn't make a move they were stuck with it, which plays into theory two. Personally, though, I think it's #1 and we are going to be waiting a while for the 780.

I could see that being the case. I think however that this is gonna end up putting Nvidia in an awkward position.

We could see AMD release a 8970 that's only 15% faster than a 7970, price it at $500 - 550 and really put a dent in Titan. Instead of having people complain about the 8970 only being 15% faster than a 7970 they'll be saying it's at nearly Titan performance for half the price.

Not saying any of that is gonna happen, just an interesting scenario.
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How many want to bet the if AMD was to release there 8000 series cards tomorrow that Titan would be positioned at a $550 price point?
Like what happened way back with the 9800gtx and gtx 280 when the 4850 and 4870 was released.
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post #1016 of 3575
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It is better in many applications which I posted earlier, but not in OpenCL

I expected better across the board, i thought it was 8800GTX time again with all the hype others were giving.

Kingpin's achievements is the only thing that has impressed me.
post #1017 of 3575
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Originally Posted by CallsignVega View Post

Ug, stuck in meetings all day so my pre-orders at Newegg are like 4 hours late. I am probably so far back on the list I won't have em for a month. mad.gif Hopefully Newegg doesn't cross reference shipping addresses on multiple accounts lol.

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Gonna have to read some reviews now to see how Titan is doing at Surround resolutions.

Don't worry about it. Pm sent.
 
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Sale prices hardly count... It's a bit like talking about IB chips like they can always be had for MC prices.

Lowest price GE 7970 on newegg right now is $430...

I apologize, I have been using the Ghz Edition for any 7970 running at 1Ghz+, which they all can do. Here are two of the lowest cost, at this time, 7970s...

http://www.amazon.com/Sapphire-DL-DVI-I-SL-DVI-D-PCI-Express-11197-03-40G/dp/B009B6Y01Y/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1361481962&sr=1-5&keywords=7970+Ghz+Edition

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131468

Catch a strong sale, and they drop lower. Point still stands.

Also, I am not arguing against the fact that a 30% gain mid generation is a feat, not at all. It is a big step, and I am not trying to take away from that. My problem is the performance isn't as expected, a lot due to reviews yesterday. When I looked at Titan this morning, it was after I tried to find it with a vendor for order, and when I seen the numbers price wasn't on my mind. I simply looked at the numbers, they disappointed.

After that disappointment I looked at the price, and what a $1000 buys me. I can literally upgrade to 3930K, get another 7970, and another SSD for the same cost as the Titan to my door.
    
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You are missing the 6970 vs 7970 dont you?? How fast a 7970 is over a 6970"::"""???
Without even taking into consideration how good 7970 overclocks.. Even the crappiest 7970 can do 1200 on the core.
I like the 7970 as much as the next guy but saying even the crappiest 7970 can do 1200 on the core is just a flat out lie

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Im just saying that is possible...

Well if it is then that example sure doesn't prove it. The only time AMD has made a performance jump of over 30% on the same process was with the 4870 and that was because the 3870 was just a die shrinked 2900XT.
 
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