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It might well be, but that's appalling by any stretch of the imagination. So if you want to play Crysis 3 @ playable FPS at 1600p you'll need 4-Way SLI Titans. OMG....
Nah, one will do, 2 is better!thumb.gif
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Being generally unpleasant/ridiculing towards others ... is frowned upon just as much as name-calling, and mods tolerance for misbehavior of any kind on this thread in particular is going to be very limited. Just a heads-up thumb.gif

Wasn't trying to be unpleasant or trying to ridicule at all. I was laughing because it was going on last night and still continuing this afternoon.
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post #2003 of 3575
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Here what I found. What I want to know how much fps in Crysis 3 with SLI GTX Titan, 3770k 3.5GHz.


Can you post quad 690, 680, and 7970 numbers. It may have to do with the game and not the gpu.
post #2004 of 3575
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Originally Posted by Mhill2029 View Post

You don't buy $1000 GPU's to lower details.

Only issue is, there is no 1000$ GPU that can max details in crysis 3. So unless you want to go up to 2000$, well, then.... wink.gif
changing your tune now that you have been proven incorrect I see.
here's a hint, just let it go.
post #2005 of 3575
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Originally Posted by carlhil2 View Post

Nah, one will do, 2 is better!thumb.gif

If you consider 39FPS playable for an FPS shooter, i sure don't. We are not even looking at surround resolutions either, this game is the same pile of crap it was in it's second incarnation.

Crytek themselves stated this was going to bring your PC to it's knees, and then came along the Titan. Coincidence? Not at all....

One word: Marketing.

Crysis 3 is nowhere near the leap forward that Crysis 1 was for it's time, it's a spruced up and repackaged Crysis 2. Nothing more...
Edited by Mhill2029 - 2/23/13 at 10:29am
 
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If you consider 39FPS playable for an FPS shooter, i sure don't. We are not even looking at surround resolutions either, this game is the same pile of crap it was in it's second incarnation.

Crytek themselves stated this was going to bring your PC to it's knees, and then came along the Titan. Coincidence? Not at all....

One word: Marketing.
You said that it took FOUR, this is proof that it only need 2 GPU's max, you know, like the 2GB 690!
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If you consider 39FPS playable for an FPS shooter, i sure don't. We are not even looking at surround resolutions either, this game is the same pile of crap it was in it's second incarnation.

Crytek themselves stated this was going to bring your PC to it's knees, and then came along the Titan. Coincidence? Not at all....

One word: Marketing.

Mhil, I remember talking with you a bunch when Crysis 1 was released and comparing our scores with our 8800s. We spent well over $1000 and were average 20s on max in DX10.

I think new technology may have spoiled you and you have forgot how it was back then. Considering the graphics of Crysis 3 it's not nearly as bad or expensive to max it. At least we CAN max it at decent frame rates. Crysis 1 wouldn't max on ANY hardware, even with an unlimited budget, when it first came out. I think the absolute best builds were not even averaging 30FPS. It took me 3 builds, over about 2 1/2 years, to start seeing 60s in the game.
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I dont consider the low FPS in Crysis 3 as a knock on any of the gpu's listed. Instead I think it is a knock on Crtek for not making a game that can be optimized with todays gpu's. Even the best gpu's. I would be bet no single gpu in the next 2 years will be able to optimaize that game at well over 60+ fps at a high res. If that is the case I blame the game and not a single one of those gpu's.
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changing your tune now that you have been proven incorrect I see.
here's a hint, just let it go.

You wrote the above after I made the statement , that crysis 3 cannot be maxed out on a 1000$ GPU. I just have no idea what this is about - I literally have no idea what you're talking about in the context of Crysis 3. No idea, at all. If you want to be rude and condescending with your suggestion "proven incorrect" just come out and say what you really want to say.

I never suggested that crysis 3 can be maxed out on a 1000$ GPU. So please do tell me why you're being rude and condescending.

If you're having hurt feelings from the frametime debate, well, the only ones who suggested anything different were those who are trying to self justify their ridiculously high purchase price after the fact. Whatever makes you feel better - The 690 does deliver more frames at sub 20ms than does the Titan.
Edited by xoleras - 2/23/13 at 10:38am
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^this

the difference between neighboring frame times is what matters... not the mean value

so you need to look at the all the frame times in sequence

Actually, now that I think about it ... in the event that there's a large gap of the values between 50% and the 90%+ values, it does somewhat imply that microstutter may be an issue ... the overall length of the collection of lines mostly just speaks to the average FPS. Shorter lines overall just means better performance. The 50% line being much shorter than the 99% should make one suspicious that they should investigate the detailed frametime graph and see what's actually happening. That's about the extent of those graphs usefulness though thumb.gif
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I literally have no idea what you're talking about in the context of Crysis 3. No idea, at all. If you want to be rude and condescending with your suggestion "proven incorrect" just come and say what you really want to say.

I never suggested that crysis 3 can be maxed out on a 1000$ GPU. So please do tell me why you're being rude and condescending.

If you're having hurt feelings from the frametime debate, well, the only ones who suggested anything different were those who are trying to self justify their ridiculously high purchase after the fact. The 690 does deliver more frames at sub 20ms than does the Titan, period. Apparently some find that offensive, but whatever.

"More frames at <20ms" in and of itself really just implies better avg performance though. In order for a raw number like '20ms' to have meaning in the context of microstutter (which I assume is the context, correct?), it would need to be something like 'more frames with a <20ms variance from the mean frametime'. Maybe that's you meant and I just didn't see that this is the context, but ... given how fast this thread moves, probably a good idea to re-iterate points that are a little ways back wink.gif

+++++++++++++++++++++

Also, what's with all the Crysis 2 hate? I think it's a great game ... it's hella long, it's full of epic set-piece battles, and it keeps your GPU nicely pegged at 90%+ usage at nearly all times (pretty much everywhere aside from latter part of the FDR freeway level), and out of the box (+ dx11/high res) it looks friggin awesome ... way better than Crysis does unless you mod the heck out of it.

Part of the reason that Crysis was so hard to max at anywhere near 60fps was that it's a HUGE CPU hog, and uses only 2 threads (and only one of them 'well'). I don't know that CPU's even NOW have gotten to the point where one of them can push 60fps at *all* times in that game thinking.gif

With C2 they figured out how to make it look awesome with the current available CPU technology.
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