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post #2011 of 3575
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Mhil, I remember talking with you a bunch when Crysis 1 was released and comparing our scores with our 8800s. We spent well over $1000 and were average 20s on max in DX10.

I think new technology may have spoiled you and you have forgot how it was back then. Considering the graphics of Crysis 3 it's not nearly as bad or expensive to max it. At least we CAN max it at decent frame rates. Crysis 1 wouldn't max on ANY hardware, even with an unlimited budget, when it first came out. I think the absolute best builds were not even averaging 30FPS. It took me 3 builds, over about 2 1/2 years, to start seeing 60s in the game.

True, but Crysis 1 was different like i said. I ran 4-Way then too..... (it was somewhat playable)

Crysis 3 isn't evolution though, it's purely there to milk the consumer for wanting more GPU performance than is logical. I told you before Crytek have Nvidia in their back pocket.
 
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Mhill2029, you said - "If you consider 39FPS playable for an FPS shooter, i sure don't" So, i take it that you won't be playing that game with your 7970?
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Mhill2029, you said - "If you consider 39FPS playable for an FPS shooter, i sure don't" So, i take it that you won't be playing that game with your 7970?

My 7970 is a temp GPU since i sold 4-Way GTX680's. I'm waiting for the 700 series most likely....

It was also bought during the whole 7970 vs 680 debate and i chose to test it out for myself. And the 7970 was the better card....
Edited by Mhill2029 - 2/23/13 at 10:40am
 
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A) They are all below the 20ms threshold, meaning imperceptible to the human eye (John Carmack had a blog discussing latency, and specifically stated that 25ms or less is non detectable. I will link if you want..

Wait a sec. So if anything below 25ms is imperceptible to the human eye, wouldn't that mean anything more than 40FPS is pointless? 25ms = 40FPS, so there would be no point in rendering frames any faster than that, since you wouldn't tell the difference anyway? Why do I think this is Carmack justifying crappy frame rates on consoles?
post #2015 of 3575
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My 7970 is a temp GPU since i sold 4-Way GTX680's. I'm waiting for the 700 series most likely....

But Nvidia won't release any 700 series soon or will they? not while they need to sell all those Titan first and AMD doesn't seems to be hurry to launch next gen.
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My 7970 is a temp GPU since i sold 4-Way GTX680's. I'm waiting for the 700 series most likely....
Oh, ok, i would have done the same but, i had $1000.00 burning a hole in my pocket, so, i bought the TITAN, it's almost the same as my GTX 580 SLI, without all of the drama!
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But Nvidia won't release any 700 series soon or will they? not while they need to sell all those Titan first and AMD doesn't seems to be hurry to launch next gen.

700 series is like 2 months away. Hence why i'm surprised with all this Titan eagerness.....

Usually i'd be all over the Titan like a rash and going 4-Way with those, but with a Kepler refresh so soon i think it's wiser to wait a bit.
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But Nvidia won't release any 700 series soon or will they? not while they need to sell all those Titan first and AMD doesn't seems to be hurry to launch next gen.

nvidia have a problem, if the 680 is average 40 percent less performance than a titan the 700's have to be 20 percent faster than a 600 which means its plausible to oc a 700 in to titan range...

thats a problem.
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Wait a sec. So if anything below 25ms is imperceptible to the human eye, wouldn't that mean anything more than 40FPS is pointless? 25ms = 40FPS, so there would be no point in rendering frames any faster than that, since you wouldn't tell the difference anyway? Why do I think this is Carmack justifying crappy frame rates on consoles?

Wait. Did you seriously just do that? First of all, if you're suggesting that 25ms = 40 fps, you're telling everyone that Titan is not capable of more than 40 fps because it, ironically enough, renders at around 25-30ms frame latency.

Look at the terms again. MS and FPS. You're doing it wrong.

The proper apples to apples comparison is Milliframes per millisecond. You can't split frames per SECOND in the terms of milliseconds. Divide frames into 1000 milliframes per 1000 millisecond = 1 frame per 1 second. What you're doing is 1 millisecond per 1 frame, which is clearly off. Now if you want to talk milliframes per millisecond, then you might have something worth discussing. Currently your terms don't equate to each other.

Your math and terms are not correct, 25ms does not == 40 fps. That's completely ridiculous and would indicate that ever our best GPUs can only do 40 fps. I'd have to laugh if that were the case - just change your terms and change your equation. And no, John Carmack was discussing the strengths of the PS4 and latency of current VR hardware. It had nothing to do with consoles. Maybe you should read the blog I linked.
Edited by xoleras - 2/23/13 at 10:47am
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700 series is like 2 months away. Hence why i'm surprised with all this Titan eagerness.....
You know this for sure? dag, i may wait! nah, just kidding, the TITAN will be the top single-core GPU for about 18 months, then, i'll just add another!
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Samsung 840 Pro Mushkin  XSPC Photon 170 Glass Reservoir / D5 Pump Combo  Windows 8.1 Pro 
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