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Hmmm maybe I just don't see 25% as a big deal.

Looking at it 25% is a nice jump depending on the value.

25% is still enough for many to spend the extra $500, though I agree the 780 would definitely be more appealing to most people.
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Sorry to not go along with the latency issue at hand however I would like to point out the TITAN is priced correctly.
When the 690 came out with the same clocks as the same clocks as the 680 few people called it overpriced as it was giving you two 680s in a single pcb (bad in some cases good in others) This also used a vapor block which is much more complicated to create than a standard heat sink. The performance of the 690 is not double the 680s performance and come with a host of other problems however the price was still double. Today nearly a year later the msrps of the the nvdias cards remain approximately the same. Therefore less performance for the same money makes sense for the TITAN because it follows the downward trend of performance over price from the 660. If TITAN had the same performance as the 690 the the 690 would become obsolete. The cannibalization i am sure is till high from the TITAN. I agree that nVidia should lower their prices however features such as less latency, lower power draw, physx and better driver support(nearly the same but the edge goes to nVdia) make it a viable competitor to AMDs offerings. The TITAN vs 690 argument is the same with huge gains in compute, double point cores and increased ram replacing physx. I do believe nVdia makes a higher percent selling a 680 than a TITAN.

This duopoly screws everyone over but at least it is not as broken as the cpu market. This card is for people who want the very best regardless of price much like the SB-E chips.

Please highlight holes in my argument if you can find any.

Finally some reason. Agree with you a 110 % thumb.gif
Except, I don't believe there is any real cannibalization from Titan, unless its for an upgrade; 2 Titans vs 1 690.
As an existing 690 owner, I could not be more delighted about Titan's price point.
post #2133 of 3575
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Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post

If anything, I give you some major credit for finding that Carmack quote. It proves my point perfectly in this thread and over in the PCPer thread.


On the flip side of that coin, I want to bring something up just to clear the air here. My apologies for not posting pics of our charts but they have been posted enough anyways.....so bear with me....

First and foremost, there are a number of situations where the HD 7970 and / or GTX 690 goes above 40ms on NUMEROUS occasions where the GTX TITAN remains below that mark. In my testing, they are:

2560x1600:
- Assassin's Creed
- Dirt Showdown
- Far Cry 3
- Hitman Absolution

5760 x 1080
- Dirt Showdown
- Far Cry 3
- Hitman Absolution


Now, considering I only tested 6 games, those aren't exactly good numbers and point towards a trend which likely carries on into many other titles as well.

You guys should increase your game catalogue and do more of these latency reviews plus FPS of course. This will also make your final performance chart with all the cards much more accurate than a brief jump in the most used games. There is probably 6% difference between your 5-6 games and the 17 games techpowerup tested. I think you guys stood out this time with a thoroughly tests of the games you tested though.
If I can ask about something: Why didn`t you test 1080p? Was it just too silly with Titan? biggrin.gif
Edited by Cloudfire777 - 2/23/13 at 2:03pm
post #2134 of 3575
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According to TPU 1600p graphs the 7970 GHz edition is 8% faster than the 680...

But yes I agree that AMD is being comfortable because their cards are in good positions right now.

How about 1080p where majority of people game on?
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You guys should increase your game catalogue and do more of these latency reviews plus FPS of course. This will also make your final performance chart with all the cards much more accurate than a brief jump in the most used games. There is probably 6% difference between your 5-6 games and the 17 games techpowerup tested. I think you guys stood out this time with a thoroughly tests of the games you tested though.
If I can ask about something: Why didn`t you test 1080p? Was it just too silly with Titan? biggrin.gif

I bought my single Titan for 1080p, there are definitely some games my 680 is not getting a constant 60FPS in. biggrin.gif

Anyway, I agree they should increase their game catalogue. SKYMTL should also request a name change and a custom title under his name so people know he's from HardwareCanucks. I *believe* this can be done.

Also Cloud, you post way to much for not having an avatar. It throws me off big time. rolleyes.gif
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How about 1080p where majority of people game on?

at 1200p (closest they have to 1080p) the 7970 GHz is 4% faster than a 680.

You get diminishing returns on lower resolutions.
 
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You guys should increase your game catalogue and do more of these latency reviews plus FPS of course. This will also make your final performance chart with all the cards much more accurate than a brief jump in the most used games. There is probably 6% difference between your 5-6 games and the 17 games techpowerup tested. I think you guys stood out this time with a thoroughly tests of the games you tested though.
If I can ask about something: Why didn`t you test 1080p? Was it just too silly with Titan? biggrin.gif

The game catalog will be expanded. My "happy medium" is 10 games to get accurate final average results. Unfortunately, I had to cut out some testing to include Crysis 3 since I typically play through the whole game before choosing a benchmark sequence and I only received the press unlock code 3 days before launch.

1080P testing on a $1000 graphics card? That's like testing if your kid's stroller and groceries fits into a Lamborghini. wink.gif
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at 1200p (closest they have to 1080p) the 7970 GHz is 4% faster than a 680.

You get diminishing returns on lower resolutions.

Hmmm seems like I need to upgrade my monitor.
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I bought my single Titan for 1080p, there are definitely some games my 680 is not getting a constant 60FPS in. biggrin.gif

Anyway, I agree they should increase their game catalogue. SKYMTL should also request a name change and a custom title under his name so people know he's from HardwareCanucks. I *believe* this can be done.

My name is ok. I go by this sig and name everywhere.

If people don't know where I'm from, someone can point it out to them. smile.gif
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I bought my single Titan for 1080p, there are definitely some games my 680 is not getting a constant 60FPS in. biggrin.gif

Anyway, I agree they should increase their game catalogue. SKYMTL should also request a name change and a custom title under his name so people know he's from HardwareCanucks. I *believe* this can be done.

Also Cloud, you post way to much for not having an avatar. It throws me off big time. rolleyes.gif

I guess 1080p is still not fully saturated with a single GPU yet. It makes sense for 120Hz players to game on lower res while still getting more smoother gameplay too right (over 60FPS)?
I know Crysis is a real killer if you plan on using MSAA instead of FXAA rolleyes.gif
We have that Metro 2033 Last Light coming soon too and its rumored to be quite demanding.

I`ll see if I can get some avatar up soon. Never really bothered before you mentioned it. smile.gif
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