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Originally Posted by mcg75 View Post

I can't agree with that.

http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/radeon_hd_7970/

The average OC of submitted 7970 is 1211 mhz.

So 1200 mhz about average not modest.

Average of the kind of person that would submit a result to hwbot -- which means it might actually run a little high? "Average overclock on air, water, cascade or liquid nitrogen" lol
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Originally Posted by mcg75 View Post

I can't agree with that.

http://hwbot.org/hardware/videocard/radeon_hd_7970/

The average OC of submitted 7970 is 1211 mhz.

So 1200 mhz about average not modest.

Don't think hwbot submission average is exactly the best way to go. I have don't even have a submission.

But I see your point, I have no hard data to go by either. More going by my reading of threads for over a year.

Though amd did say when the ghz came out that most would hit over 1200 core.

http://videocardz.com/32758/amd-preparing-radeon-hd-7970-ghz-edition
     
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Average of the kind of person that would submit a result to hwbot -- which means it might actually run a little high? "Average overclock on air, water, cascade or liquid nitrogen" lol

Exactly. I edited my post saying exactly that a minute ago.
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Originally Posted by jomama22 View Post

...but it doesn't beat 2 ghz 7970s...and a few pages back it was shown that 2 7970s oc to 1200/1800 (which is very modest)beat 1 titan oc to 1180 (which is the highest Anyone can oc right now because of the 265w limit)by 20%...

Heck the 3dmark score with 4 titans oc to 1400 only beat 4 7970 oc (don't know clocks) by a mere 300 points

I

The reason for this is that the AMD cards have tesselation disabled when running 3dmark11 with hwbot rules.
 
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Originally Posted by jomama22 View Post

Don't think hwbot submission average is exactly the best way to go. I have don't even have a submission.

But I see your point, I have no hard data to go by either. More going by my reading of threads for over a year.

Though amd did say when the ghz came out that most would hit over 1200 core.

http://videocardz.com/32758/amd-preparing-radeon-hd-7970-ghz-edition

It's really the only source of data we have. The problem with trying to take something like this just from threads here is that there is zero verification of anything. Does someone get past 1 run of Heaven and claim their 7970 can do 1300mhz stable etc. At least with hwbot, you sign up and your result is verified.

I've seen people posting asking why their card won't hit 1200mhz stable when everybody else's does and that's because they simply do not all go that high stable.
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I realize this and don't need to read another 20 pages or arguing over how everything is allowed yet amd cards can disable Tess....then what is the point of hwbot?

If anything, it just proves how useless hwbot is as a comparison tool.

Hwbot is designed for people to get the highest score anyway possible. That's the bottom line. So if we are to ever bring hwbot into discussion, than it needs to be what the final score is, pure and simple. No asterisk, no nothing. Otherwise it need not be used

Hwbot is designed as a place for the world's best benchers, hobbyists, extreme OCers, enthusiasts, etc. to compete in different categories and have a goo time while doing it.

No one really cares what brand of cards was used for a high score and the credit for the score goes for the overclocker since all the setups are pushed to the limits anyways. You can also bench older hardware there which is a blessing for guys like me who don't have infinite funds to do stuff, I have a single good platform I use to bench GPUs and then I dabble a bit with some other cheaper platforms.

HWbot is not a comparison tool and no synthetic benches should be used as comparison tools since they tell you absolutely nothing about real world performance. You can use hwbot to compare stuff but then you have to take into account all the tweaks and rules that are in place, which is why the titan an 7970 scores aren't comparable. That's why I only really use it for average OCs when I want to compare something.
 
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It was pretty naive of me to throw out a percentage. But I do believe 1200 is a very obtainable oc for 7970s, and if anything, still holds the water of my original post, that it can Beat a current max Oc of 1180 from the titan.

Not naive at all. The impression I got around here when buying my 7970 was that everybody gets close to 1300 mhz easy. I started to dig around more and more here and other sources and reality says differently.

As to your second point I concur 100%. It is far more likely for a 7970 to hit 1200 mhz than a Titan.
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Lol at 7970 owners in damage control. I'm no fanboy but it's so obvious to see how much faster Titan is.

Indeed sir, indeed...
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I'm gonna jump on my neighbors rig, he just got the Radeon gaming bundle with a HD 7950 and asked if I wanted to check it out.
I said man I love to play the game Screen Tear..!

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I really don't see how this thread has reached 300 pages when titan as a concept is really easy to grasp.

It offers the best performance in a single GPU along with other premium features but costs a lot. If it's worth it depends on the person.
 
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