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Originally Posted by Avonosac View Post

Reference design.. They are selling GeForce GTX Titans... not EVGA titans... It always is mostly this way, previous gens it was only things like stickers differing, but they were identical cards underneath.

I hear you on that sir but like you mentioned at least add some kind of cool graphic design to stand out from the rest lol.
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http://www.overclock.net/t/1363440/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-owners-club/1430#post_19414487

Done and done to that discussion.
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Originally Posted by Phishy714 View Post

http://www.overclock.net/t/1363440/nvidia-geforce-gtx-titan-owners-club/1430#post_19414487

Done and done to that discussion.

Not at all. He said cards (which could mean evga cards only?) will be reference-based for now. Nothing about being allowed to or not, or whether they'll be doing them.
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So you can get spanked by 3 7970's that cost 800 less? wink.gif

Not really, and they also run WAY hotter/louder with crappy crossfire driver support and frametime stuttering. Screw that wink.gif.
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If MSI didn't do what they did early on with the few Lightnings that were unlocked, every 680 Lightning today would be a complete waste of money. Sure it's got a better cooler and that might help some people stay under 70C and not throttle. But if you bought a Lightning recently and didn't flash it, it's just as locked down as the reference (1.175v and 133% Power %). So, kinda nervous about the Titan Lightning. If they do release it, and have the intent right off the bat to keep it within Nvidia's specs instead of switching later on like with the 680 Lightning, then I don't see myself bothering to sell these references for one.
Actually I bought a Lightning like 3 weeks ago. Thankfully you can flash the bios back to the unlocked one so it was all good.

So it didn't make every lightning on sale today worthless.

Yeah, that's what I mean. The only reason you can do that is because the unlocked BIOS is out there because of the first few-thousand Lightnings.

And, another reason you can flash the unlocked BIOS with unlimited voltage control and 300% Power Target is because the hardware design was in place for that right off the bat. If the Titan Lightning is hardware-locked, like other 680s where an edited BIOS still won't get you over 1.212v, then no amount of flashing will do anything for them.

So, that's what I mean. That's why you can buy a 680 Lightning today and flash it. But if Titan Lightning doesn't start out the same way, then...
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Not at all. He said cards (which could mean evga cards only?) will be reference-based for now. Nothing about being allowed to or not, or whether they'll be doing them.

If they were allowed, why wouldn't they do it when obviously other partners would?

If Nvidia wouldn't allow EVGA to do it (who is an EXCLUSIVE partner that only sell NVIDIA cards) why would they allow other partners that also sell AMD cards?

Yeah.

It's pretty much done - Now reference designs with different clock'd cards and custom cooling solutions? That's PROBABLY going to happen across the board.
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If they were allowed, why wouldn't they do it when obviously other partners would?

If Nvidia wouldn't allow EVGA to do it (who is an EXCLUSIVE partner that only sell NVIDIA cards) why would they allow other partners that also sell AMD cards?

Yeah.

It's pretty much done - Now reference designs with different clock'd cards and custom cooling solutions? That's PROBABLY going to happen across the board.

I believe we are going to see which oems have the balls to forgo the rma stipulation set forth by nvidias new guidelines.

As we know, oems are technically allowed to produce non-reference pcbs under one condition: no support from nvidia and rmas are covered by the OEM themselves. This is a huge gamble for any OEM as producing pcbs such as the lightning attract those that push hardware to the limit, thus more fried chips and rmas. It is an expensive task to eat the cost of a chip/PCB when an rma happens.

Then there are the rumors that nvidia threatened to cut chip tray amounts to those that dared produce a non-refernce PCB that allowed over voltage and removed tdp limits. (Look at the lightning and evga classy)

It will be interesting to see who takes that risk. If someone does, guaranteed it will cost minimum $1200 if not more.
     
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I believe we are going to see which oems have the balls to forgo the rma stipulation set forth by nvidias new guidelines.

As we know, oems are technically allowed to produce non-reference pcbs under one condition: no support from nvidia and rmas are covered by the OEM themselves. This is a huge gamble for any OEM as producing pcbs such as the lightning attract those that push hardware to the limit, thus more fried chips and rmas. It is an expensive task to eat the cost of a chip/PCB when an rma happens.

Then there are the rumors that nvidia threatened to cut chip tray amounts to those that dared produce a non-refernce PCB that allowed over voltage and removed tdp limits. (Look at the lightning and evga classy)

It will be interesting to see who takes that risk. If someone does, guaranteed it will cost minimum $1200 if not more.

nvidia already stated they wont disallow RMAs for any type of voltage increase, as long as it is a board with sufficient components approved by them. It's not a risk.
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Then there are the rumors that nvidia threatened to cut chip tray amounts to those that dared produce a non-refernce PCB that allowed over voltage and removed tdp limits. (Look at the lightning and evga classy)

It will be interesting to see who takes that risk. If someone does, guaranteed it will cost minimum $1200 if not more.

Honestly I have never heard of that rumor.. From what I remember, nvidia threatened to not help with rma's like you mentioned before. That is what made OEM's change the lightning and classified cards.

Either way, I don't see any OEM doing this at all. Hell, they bent over for nvidia on this same issue when they threatened about the 680.. I can't see them doing it for TITAN, a much larger and much more expensive chip.
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nvidia already stated they wont disallow RMAs for any type of voltage increase, as long as it is a board with sufficient components approved by them. It's not a risk.

source?
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