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Originally Posted by th3illusiveman View Post

like i said, when it works... and even the extra $1000 for a third TITAN looks stupid with scaling like this.

Maybe on this game, but 680 tri-SLI is FAR superior to Tri-Fire in terms of performance if you look through all the graphs.
    
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Maybe ill buy one a year from now. LOL



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post #783 of 3575
After fully digesting reviews and user (and Mod) comments, it is clear that this is just a product thrown out to let the shills/focus group members attempt to sell at these ridiculous prices. Anyone pumping this product at such glaringly fraudulent prices should be banned immediately. And any mod throwing their hat in the ring to try and justify nv's extortion has lost any and all credibility by any reasonable measure. This ridiculous charade of viral marketing is blatantly obvious.
post #784 of 3575
Looking at all these benches makes me power hungry frown.gif

Once i sell my GTX570s i will be looking to get another HD7970. with AMD focused on improving it's drivers throughout the year, smoothing out the latency issues and the immense power it brings to the table you can't go wrong.
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I'm going to take some exception to that statement as well as the graph since you have to take it in context. While the HD 7970 CF looks like it's bleeding like a stuck pig, MOST of its associated frame times are WELL BELOW the 20ms mark, making those fluctuations very, very hard to detect. It may look bad on a chart but I don't think it would translate into a massively unbalanced REAL WORLD gameplay experience.

I think it is actually worse when you take it in context. What they are showing is that, when you measure the frame at the monitor, there are many CFX frames that are basically displayed for 0 ms, but that those frames count for FPS numbers even if you don't see them. Here's their chart that takes those small-portion frames out of the FPS numbers. Not good for CFX.


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This is the same graph with data gathered from our method that omits RUNT frames that only represent pixels under a certain threshold (to be discussed later). Removing the tiny slivers gives us a "perceived frame rate" that differs quite a bit - CrossFire doesn't look faster than a single card.

We probably need to take this discussion to another thread though. Plus, it's all preliminary info, so we need to wait to make judgements based on it, but it is an interesting perspective.
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Originally Posted by HeadlessKnight View Post

The performance is very impressive against the GTX 680, especially when overclocked, but the price isn't.
2x GTX 660 Ti's perform on-par and cost much less.

That's what gets me the most. We're talking about nearly half the cost with very similar performance at 1600p. If you want the best of the best, Titan SLI looks like it's the way to go, but then you can't use the frame lag/latency argument.

Ah well. I'm going to be interested to see how the demand will be and how much stock retailers will be carrying.

Have fun Titan buyers and make sure you post your builds and OC results.
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Is that what people are calling it now, 'frame lag'?

I am also glad the awareness of the phenomenon is going up, but I don't know that I like settling on the term 'frame lag', or even 'frame latency'. Neither really describes the actual problem.

I prefer 'uncontrolled frametime distribution for the purpose of maximizing average FPS', i.e. cheating to look better in benchmarks than you really are wink.gif

What about people like me who have never once noticed this "phenomenon" with SLI/CF setups? I'll take the FPS thanks. rolleyes.gif
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100fps+

I can test frame-times myself.

Totally understandable that it would be smooth as butter, even with frame lag at 100+ FPS. thumb.gif

You would really have to lock your FPS at about 50FPS, then compare side by side with a Titan locked at the same FPS to see the difference. I loved my SLI setups when games were getting 60+ FPS, but whenever they went below that I absolutely hated it.
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I prefer 'uncontrolled frametime distribution for the purpose of maximizing average FPS', i.e. cheating to look better in benchmarks than you really are wink.gif

Yeah let's go with that term. XD
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Maybe on this game, but 680 tri-SLI is FAR superior to Tri-Fire in terms of performance if you look through all the graphs.
Like i said... AMD has the power but no drivers for 3-4 cards. Across the board you will also note that Crossfire is superior to SLi, which shows with better drivers it should do the same with 3-4 cards.
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My final saying on Titan is this. If you wan't to future proof your rig for the next year and only play on a single 1080p screen grab a Titan. I doubt we will see a single-gpu solution that will overtake a single card with this much power and vram in the next two years. Anyone else your basically paying to have the best possible for maybe 6-9 months unless your dropping 3-4k tri/quad sli. For people like me who would only be in need of the power of Titan in sli (single 1440p) there will be much better and cheaper solutions by the end of this year. Its either single or tri/quad to really make sense. I put a grand down that 3 8970's will destroy Titan sli for 1500.
 
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