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Dual 7870 xt chips
256bit bus x 2 = 512bit bus

If this cards around 500 dollars I'm definitely interested

then this card would murder the 7970 (inc Ghz) sales and destroy it's performance reputation in the competitive market. not to mention that one of the considerations of previously not releasing the 7990 (as a ref design) was that work station rigs would opt for a 7990 instead of the more expensive fire pro cards (since the 7970 die is quite good at compute)

but if it would be more logical for AMD to place it between 700 to 800$.
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Titan has such a miniscule market to sell in that AMD doesn't care. Selling FirePro cards as Radeons would cost them money, and do little for most consumers. It's just bragging rights and very niche workload that will benefit realistically from such a setup. It doesn't blow away any of the competing single GPU's enough to make the price make sense, and Xfire and SLI are cheaper while performing similar to better. Titan SLI will require an extremely expensive rig just to not bottleneck thus further shrinking its target market.

To AMD, the Titan is smoke and mirrors, a PR stunt. AMD only had to address Titan and rumors as of late as there were false negative rumors stirring about AMD in the press and online and Titan was coming out at the same time. The timing made it look bad for AMD, like they had no new cards, had delays and problems, and had no answer to the Titan. Letting such a perfect storm of rumors run wild would be very bad for them, so they addressed it. But like much of what was reported in their teleconference has come true. Titan isn't that much of a threat, and has no real market. AMD has picked its markets and is winning on price/performance along its entire line. They have no interest in this niche market the Titan is aimed at, and feel there is enough in the market to combat it anyway. As I said, you can get similar performance for far cheaper. And very few workloads make use of Titans muscle. And few users have a need to run such workloads. Titan is said to be best for SLI. But you need such an overpriced uber rig to not bottleneck (Ivy-E). This limits its market further. I feel like a broken record.

Edit> As for being future proofed... by the time these things are put to use (software catching up) there will likely be better offerings in the channel with newer archs on smaller nodes using less power, being quieter, etc. In the short and long terms, these are bad price/performance and good for niche markets and those who want/need it regardless of how overpriced it is...

AMD has nothing to fear from Titan as its not competing with AMD or affecting any of AMD's market right now...

This ref 7990 interests me though. Based on Tahiti XT? Interesting. I wonder how this will affect OC vs the "7990"s that are out now from third party vendors. Anything new is nice. I don't like the timing though... Since the Titan is underwhelming, they should have leaked it a lil later, adding insult to injury rather than making it look like an answer to the launch...

Obviously what I say is my opinion only, not trying to say its truth for all people/circumstances/workloads...

It's hard to have a hard stance on a topic and be opinionated, while still trying to come off as unbiased an unoffensive... Hence me always rambling and ranting and over-explaining myself and having to state its an opinion. tongue.gif

Ironically, you can't say the same for amd's laptop market. Their note book gpus are what they should be most concerned about. there's barely any gaming cards in laptops on the markets, and smaller yet, access to those laptops that do have them.

Best offer on newegg at a sub 1,000 price range is a radeon 7730m, which comparitivily is only slightly better then their 2011 6770m, while nvidia has gtx 660m, 650m, 645m, 635m, 640m, 640mLE, ect..

Ohh, and they recently have a 8730m which is on par to a gtx 640m le
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then this card would murder the 7970 (inc Ghz) sales and destroy it's performance reputation in the competitive market. not to mention that one of the considerations of previously not releasing the 7990 (as a ref design) was that work station rigs would opt for a 7990 instead of the more expensive fire pro cards (since the 7970 die is quite good at compute)

but if it would be more logical for AMD to place it between 700 to 800$.

If amd would just allow the 78xx series to have 3 and 4 way Crossfire we wouldnt even need this card in the first place
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If amd would just allow the 78xx series to have 3 and 4 way Crossfire we wouldnt even need this card in the first place
No point, buying higher performance cards makes more sense than CFing cheap ones. Especially with the current 79x0 prices.
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No point, buying higher performance cards makes more sense than CFing cheap ones. Especially with the current 79x0 prices.

Maybe for you but not everyone feels that way. Imagine 4 way 7870 hawks
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Scaling past xfire will be taking a hit...I wouldn't do it unless it was 7970 quad fire for benching only.
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