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Fixed my original post. My wording was wrong.

It still is.

No one can know what is currently happening 93 million miles away sooner than 8 minutes, not even NASA.
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It basically is a super slow and less intense version of a supernova.

This is not what a red giant is.
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If NASA is around that time, I'm sure they can predict exactly what time the "Red Giant Event" will begin.

It's going to be so gradual that no one will be able to define a hard cut off between main sequence and red giant stage.
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The point I was making was that although anything we witness happening to the Sun is 8 minutes after it actually occurred ... it actually is happening instantaneously because to us the event doesn't occur until the light from the event hits us.

Just because we won't know about it till 8 minutes later doesn't mean that it didn't happen when it happened.
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Would be a cool movie, but in reality the Sun will get bigger, lose mass, lose heat, and engulf our planet (without exploding). Basically our entire planet slowly melts. 99% of all life forms will be extinct due to the extreme heat before the Sun touches Earth.

The Sun's luminosity and diameter has been gradually increasing nearly since it's inception, and Earth will be uninhabitable billions of years before the Sun is considered a red giant.



Most wouldn't consider it a red giant till the dramatic radius increase and temperature decrease around 11 billion years of age, but next to nothing will be alive on this planet at 7 billion years age.
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Whats amazing is that our sun compared to some stars is as small as earth compared to the sun.
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I'm pretty sure they've seen this many times, even from the first years after they started imaging the sun; this is not news. Go to google images and type pictures of the sun. You will see many magnetic eddies like this video where the plasma is pulled down. Any video of the sun should have at least a few, but maybe not in this resolution.
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Any idea on the name of the music?
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I'm pretty sure they've seen this many times, even from the first years after they started imaging the sun; this is not news. Go to google images and type pictures of the sun. You will see many magnetic eddies like this video where the plasma is pulled down. Any video of the sun should have at least a few, but maybe not in this resolution.

This is a video of a solar flare, a coronal mass ejection, and coronal rain. All three happening in one event, let alone being captured on video, is rare.
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Fixed my original post. My wording was wrong.

It still is.

No one can know what is currently happening 93 million miles away sooner than 8 minutes, not even NASA.
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It basically is a super slow and less intense version of a supernova.

This is not what a red giant is.
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If NASA is around that time, I'm sure they can predict exactly what time the "Red Giant Event" will begin.

It's going to be so gradual that no one will be able to define a hard cut off between main sequence and red giant stage.
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The point I was making was that although anything we witness happening to the Sun is 8 minutes after it actually occurred ... it actually is happening instantaneously because to us the event doesn't occur until the light from the event hits us.

Just because we won't know about it till 8 minutes later doesn't mean that it didn't happen when it happened.
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Would be a cool movie, but in reality the Sun will get bigger, lose mass, lose heat, and engulf our planet (without exploding). Basically our entire planet slowly melts. 99% of all life forms will be extinct due to the extreme heat before the Sun touches Earth.

The Sun's luminosity and diameter has been gradually increasing nearly since it's inception, and Earth will be uninhabitable billions of years before the Sun is considered a red giant.

Most wouldn't consider it a red giant till the dramatic radius increase and temperature decrease around 11 billion years of age, but next to nothing will be alive on this planet at 7 billion years age.

You didn't have to refute me so much, geez.

I wasn't saying that NASA can know before 8minutes if the event suddenly happens. But they could probably detect the event beforehand, like they do many events. In which case they would know when exactly in time the event starts before it does. So we would experience it 8 minutes after the event, but to us it would seem instantaneous because we wouldn't notice it beforehand unless NASA told us.

I wasn't saying that a red giant is actually like a supernova but I was trying to give a laments term of it.
It will get bigger and slowly engulf things. A supernova releases huge amounts of energy that engulfs things, really quick.
There are similarities.

I didn't know that the Sun is increasing in size even right now, but even so my statement still holds true. tongue.gif

Also: "that no one will be able"
I highly doubt you can definitely say what "NASA" will be capable of billions of years into the future.
I was just using it as a possibility / what if. They might or might not be able to detect the "event".
Edited by kennyparker1337 - 2/22/13 at 5:42pm
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But they could probably detect the event beforehand, like they do many events.

This is often the case, for well defined events.
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laments

Layman's.
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Also: "that no one will be able"
I highly doubt you can definitely say what "NASA" will be capable of billions of years into the future.
I was just using it as a possibility / what if. They might or might not be able to detect the "event".

I wasn't making any predictions regarding the technical capabilities of who or whatever may or may not be around billions of years in the future; I was simply pointing out that our definition of what a red giant is doesn't provide for a perfect cut off where a star can unambiguously be called a red giant based based on any change that could happen in a few minutes time.
Edited by Blameless - 2/22/13 at 5:54pm
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What lol?

"2012" did not have Nicolas Cage or have anything to do with the Sun burning up the Earth.

The movie you want is "Knowing".

I personally think Nicolas Cage is a great actor. He just signs up for any movie. Even if it clearly is bad from the get go.
Anyone could clearly tell the director was worth nothing in this movie. The writers were horrible as well.

There are no doubt some roles Nicolas didn't fit or even overacted a bit, but I have never watched a movie and thought "I can't watch this because of Nic!"
I have watched all Nic movies all the way through.

Hating on Nic is just the "cool" thing to do because very little people realize there is much more people that decide how the movies is portrayed then the lead actor.

Thanks for correcting me on the film but Nick is still a terrible actor.
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Mind blowing video. Awesome! thumb.gif
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You think our Sun is amazing... imagine living next to VV Cephei.




When that star explodes it's going to be so bright most of the galaxy will be able to see it. That includes us, right before we're terminated.

However, Doradus will be a spectacular event. Might even give birth to a singularity/black hole.
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What lol?

"2012" did not have Nicolas Cage or have anything to do with the Sun burning up the Earth.

The movie you want is "Knowing".

I personally think Nicolas Cage is a great actor. He just signs up for any movie. Even if it clearly is bad from the get go.
Anyone could clearly tell the director was worth nothing in this movie. The writers were horrible as well.

There are no doubt some roles Nicolas didn't fit or even overacted a bit, but I have never watched a movie and thought "I can't watch this because of Nic!"
I have watched all Nic movies all the way through.

Hating on Nic is just the "cool" thing to do because very little people realize there is much more people that decide how the movies is portrayed then the lead actor.

Thanks for correcting me on the film but Nick is still a terrible actor.
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