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Except you actually had the freedom to do so, but now PC gamers are collectively celebrating the DRM that literally limits what they can do with their stuff while pretending to care about consumer rights.

The more comments I keep reading being posted, the more I can't help but feel that they just cannot see your point.
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Buy thru steam;

keep all your installer files backed-up elsewhere;

rejoice that your cd's & dvd's will never get scratched/broken nor will you lose your precious serial key on the back of the manual;

play an awesome game thumb.gif
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If you can have fun with the low grade non drm games these days with the occasional, once in a blue moon, AAA non DRM game, then more power to you..

The implication that AAA titles tend to be any good is kinda silly, IMO.

Most AAA games are crap (a side effect of pandering to the lowest common denominator), and DRM does nothing to improve them.
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Any computer I can install Steam on is a viable gaming machine for me with all my games at my fingertips.

Any computer I can run a game on is a viable gaming machine for me, with all of my games at my fingertips, as I have DRM free, or cracked, copies of all of them ready to go.
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Like child abuse and genocide

I do not care what you do to any children that are not my own, nor how many people you kill that I aren't my friends or family. Put DRM in my games however, and I get annoyed.
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Unfortunately a lot of publishers won't publish their games there until they have been out for a couple years.

Good games are timeless. I can wait.
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I actually prefer games to be released on Steam since it so easy to keep track and download all your games.

No one has a problem with games being released on Steam, they have a problem with those games that are not being released anywhere else.
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DRM has been around in games since the late 80s. DRM isn't just something like Steam or Origin, it's things like serial keys, not being able to make a copy of a CD, etc.

Of course, but there is no denying that DRM was typically less prevalent and less invasive in the past.
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No one said there is good drm, all drm is bad, but comparing drm to another drm, Steams is the lesser evil, especially compared to EA/Origin and their... less than honorable business tactics and so called "support". And apparently UbiSoft is "trying" to fix their wrong doings, too little too late if you ask me.

Among services similar to Steam, or always on-line DRM, sure Steam may be the lesser evil, but that's not saying much.

The greatest evil I tolerate before looking for ways to crack/remove DRM are those games that ask you to type a word out of the manual to continue after a certain point.
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All you complaining about the DRM.... Why? Like stealing software or something? DRM has a minimal performance impact.

You do realize that people stealing software are those have to worry the least about DRM, right? DRM only hurts legitimate users.

It's also not about performance. It's about convenience, usability, and principle.
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Buy thru steam;

keep all your installer files backed-up elsewhere;

rejoice that your cd's & dvd's will never get scratched/broken nor will you lose your precious serial key on the back of the manual;

I just rip all my game discs and save any keys to a text file. Where possible, I backup full installs (cracks included, if necessary), and make .reg files to copy what's needed to play to the registry. All I have to do is extract and play.

It's been years since I've even taken out most of my discs, and I don't need any service, or even an internet connection (except for multiplayer, of course).
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I just rip all my game discs and save any keys to a text file. Where possible, I backup full installs (cracks included, if necessary), and make .reg files to copy what's needed to play to the registry. All I have to do is extract and play.

It's been years since I've even taken out most of my discs, and I don't need any service, or even an internet connection (except for multiplayer, of course).

I've done that with some games in the past, especially before direct2drive started gaining momentum. But with some games that had updates or patches post-release, you still end up having to download something sometimes that something ends up being an optimization or something major that just makes the whole process take even longer when installing from physical.

Best example i have is trying to install Vanilla WoW from 5-6 discs, then installing 5 or so patches, then an expansion, followed by some file library optimization... turned into an all day affair. Not the same problem for all games but hopefully u see my small point.

Sometimes it ends up being faster to download the already optimized & patched files (if there are any), at least that has been my experience after using steam for so long.
By now I'm just too lazy, just let steam do it all for me biggrin.gif

However u install, Arma 3 should be pretty friggin awesome
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