I'm familiar with how the business works, and those "reps" are usually just salespeople...a phone answerere. So I'd take such wisdom with a hefty dose of salt. It seems more plausible than NV would jump at the chance to get their new architecture out ahead of AMD in time for Christmas. You don't see Intel waiting for AMD to release something...Intel is always cranking away. AMD on the other hand is kinda sorta in trouble financially, so they have to delay products and keep rehashing the same architectures.