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Originally Posted by Vagrant Storm View Post

Heh, do they realize by hiding information and not coming out with everything they are just hurting themselves? i am sure any rumor that gets started will be worse than the reality...not that I expect the reality actually have used game sales in it or at least not without paying to renew the game key.

Sony has perpetually walked with a shotgun aimed at their feet since they made the PSP.
post #22 of 51
My guess is that all games will come with a key for the original owner which is locked to the system.

The disc will still 'work' in another system but they will probably do one or more of the following:
1) Disable trophies
2) Force a used game license purchase
3) Force the game into demo mode
4) Force required 'paid' membership to their online service for the privilege to play used games.

( I don't really know... just burned out for the day and stuck at work)
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Sony has perpetually walked with a shotgun aimed at their feet since they made the PSP.

I'm guessing it started with the success of PS2. It's like they got headstrong or something, and decided they could do whatever they wanted...
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That only applies to PS3, PS2 and PS1 games. Your hard copy PS1-3 games won't work on the PS4, either. There is no native backwards compatibility. The hardware is too different. You can continue to play your PS3, and continue to play your PSN purchased games on your PS3.

Which is total crap and no-one should be supporting this.
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Which is total crap and no-one should be supporting this.

Why?

The hardware is different. It would be like buying a Windows only game on Steam and then crying it doesn't work on Linux or Mac.

My N64 cartridges don't work on my Gamecube.

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People are so naive..


PlayStation won't, the publishers will.. Either way, it's better than Steam's "used game" system..
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The PS3 will support Linux.
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Why?

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Yes, because this argument is totally valid.

Cartridge vs disc

Digital download vs Digital download.

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Yes, because this argument is totally valid.

Cartridge vs disc

Digital download vs Digital download.

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It is valid. Hardware is different. End of discussion.
 
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post #30 of 51
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Yes, because this argument is totally valid.

Cartridge vs disc

Digital download vs Digital download.

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Apples to oranges. You can put the same content within a certain medium and it'll still be played by a respective system, so long as the code is the same. The architecture for these games as Cheezman has said, is different. It's not just a matter of patching some things to make it work, certain instructions are hard coded for specific hardware. At best it might be able to emulate ps1/2 games, however PS3 is a different beast altogether. Earlier PS3 had the hardware enabled to play ps1/2 games, at an increased cost. This was removed.
Edited by end0rphine - 2/21/13 at 4:01pm
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