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That's about as accurate as saying that gaming is about pressing a button on a gamepad or a keyboard.

That IS the end result though right, a benchmarking score? I get that the process of overvolting the card and dumping LN2 on it is fun for a few people. It's not like it's really a "skilled" hobby though.
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That IS the end result though right, a benchmarking score? I get that the process of overvolting the card and dumping LN2 on it is fun for a few people. It's not like it's really a "skilled" hobby though.

Anyone who says it doesn't require large amounts of skill just doesn't know anything about it.

If it's not "skilled" I would like to ask that you vmod your card, insulate your hardware and bench the setup for about 6 hours while dealing with cold bugs and those hardware mods and manage to take some benchmark records with the setup.

And don't forget to optimize the OS before benching thumb.gif

What you're saying is equal to telling professional artists that what they do isn't quite "skilled" because they just put a pen on the paper and end up with a drawing. Just like you just pour some LN2 on top of hardware and you end up with a benchmark score. As a person who likes both painting/drawing and benchmarking I wish they were that simple but they're not.

You don't just go and buy LN2 and end up with a record score, that's not how it works.
 
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And then at the end of the day, he presses start on a benchmarking tool. Not exactly the kind of payoff that excites me much. To each his own though, there's a lot of people who enjoy collecting stamps as well.

I can't really understand why people overclock either. I mean, all I have to do is push a button to get an "OC" and i'm done. No excitement in that either. Sheesh, wait why am I posting on OCN? rolleyes.gif

/sarcasm
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That IS the end result though right, a benchmarking score? I get that the process of overvolting the card and dumping LN2 on it is fun for a few people. It's not like it's really a "skilled" hobby though.

Not a skilled hobby rolleyes.gif

Lets see you do it.

Admin really should make a site called overstock.net for you lot.
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Noob question, why is that dude taking a blowtorch and heating up the LN he just dumped in there?
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Noob question, why is that dude taking a blowtorch and heating up the LN he just dumped in there?

He does that for 2 reasons. To get rid of the ice build up and to warm the card back up in case of a cold bug which would cause the system to crash.
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I admire the skill and effort, personally I doubt I would get much of a dopamine release if I were to try it. wink.gif
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Anyone who says it doesn't require large amounts of skill just doesn't know anything about it.

If it's not "skilled" I would like to ask that you vmod your card, insulate your hardware and bench the setup for about 6 hours while dealing with cold bugs and those hardware mods and manage to take some benchmark records with the setup.

And don't forget to optimize the OS before benching thumb.gif

What you're saying is equal to telling professional artists that what they do isn't quite "skilled" because they just put a pen on the paper and end up with a drawing. Just like you just pour some LN2 on top of hardware and you end up with a benchmark score. As a person who likes both painting/drawing and benchmarking I wish they were that simple but they're not.

You don't just go and buy LN2 and end up with a record score, that's not how it works.

So your main skill is following instructions that anyone with an able body and mind could do. I learned how to use a soldering iron in about 10 minutes when I was 15 years old. How can insulating anything be called skilled labor? I could probably find an unemployed Mexican at Home Depot who could insulate my whole house. Hardly "art" in my opinion.

Could anyone walk out onto a golf course, read a manual, and shoot 2 under par? I don't think so.

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I can't really understand why people overclock either. I mean, all I have to do is push a button to get an "OC" and i'm done. No excitement in that either. Sheesh, wait why am I posting on OCN? rolleyes.gif

So you get additional performance out of your hardware? There's a tangible benefit to that. 99% of the people on this site overclock by typing in a multiplier, changing a voltage, or clicking on a slider bar and dragging it to the right. I suppose you think that takes "skill" as well.
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So your main skill is following instructions that anyone with an able body and mind could do. I learned how to use a soldering iron in about 10 minutes when I was 15 years old. How can insulating anything be called skilled labor? I could probably find an unemployed Mexican at Home Depot who could insulate my whole house. Hardly "art" in my opinion.

Could anyone walk out onto a golf course, read a manual, and shoot 2 under par? I don't think so.
So you get additional performance out of your hardware? There's a tangible benefit to that.

Its more than insulating. You have to know the hardware you are benching inside out, how it reacts to different things, all the differant setting of a BIOS and what each one does. it is a skilled sport.
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So your main skill is following instructions that anyone with an able body and mind could do. I learned how to use a soldering iron in about 10 minutes when I was 15 years old. How can insulating anything be called skilled labor? I could probably find an unemployed Mexican at Home Depot who could insulate my whole house. Hardly "art" in my opinion.

Could anyone walk out onto a golf course, read a manual, and shoot 2 under par? I don't think so.

Look, your argument is ridiculous.

Let's take your golfing example and apply the same arguments to it. Yes everyone can shoot 2 under par because everyone can read a book on golfing, I learned how to use a club (or whatever its called) in about 10 minutes when I was 15 and I could probably find an unemployed person at home depot that could go through a whole golf course.

That's exactly how ridiculous the argument is, it's oversimplifying everything to such a level that if you apply the same argument to other skilled stuff you end up with the same result; anyone can do it.

Every piece of hardware acts differently under cold, there's a big chance that when you're benching you're in uncharted territory because last time I checked the amount of LN2 tutorials on the web is pretty low in general not to mention for individual pieces of hardware. Having a restricted amount of time and figuring out the software and hardware you're using in that time while also keeping track of cold bugs, condensation etc. does require skill. Ask anyone who has tried it (and actually managed to do something worth while) and they'll tell you the same thing.

If it wasn't hard why aren't all the people around the web who like extreme OCing waving around their 8.5GHz+ CPU-Z validations?
 
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