[CVG] Purchased PSN games can't be transferred to PS4, Sony admits - Page 20

Yeah, but you forget, with that 1080p30FPS upgrade, more polygons are available and more features.

Oh I agree, 30Hz is good enough for the vast majority of people, and if a game is console exclusive, I'll certainly play it in 30Hz, but it just seems like the specs of the latest consoles are remarkably unimpressive.

Granted, Sony lost almost $250 on each PS3 last round, and both Microsoft and Sony are money-in-the-hole overall in regards to this console generation.

I think it's an insanely smart move on Sony's part to use cheaper, "commercially" available x86 parts this round. Little to no R&D, game designers will find programming easier, larger potential customer base, supply will be much less of an issue, etc. It's just a shame that we're coming up on a decade since the last round of consoles, and upping from 720P to 1080P (which most people expected games to run at last generation) sounds rather lame.

The demo videos certainly looked promising, it's just that if you told average people "the PS4 will be able to play games at 1080P!" they would respond "...what? I thought we already had that." I'm excited, but unless there are tons of awesome games at launch, I'm predicting WiiU-esque sales numbers.

Definitely. I'm certainly excited about it, and will likely pick one up at/near launch, but on paper the PS4 sounds rather unimpressive, and I have a feeling that will cause Sony to lose a few sales. The jump from PS2 to PS3 was massive (8 3GHz cores! 256MB RAM! 1080P gaming! BLU-RAY DRIIIIIIIVE!), but the jump from PS3 to PS4 (while a logical and necessary jump) is not so great.
Edited by DrBrogbo - 2/28/13 at 5:01pm

Because I DO keep all my original consoles you nitwit, that was my point. Keeping an original console to play games vs trying to get a newer computer to play 10+ year old PC games is beyond easier
Edited by Binary Ecyrb - 3/1/13 at 5:33pm

The thing is, that still doesnt make it a fair comparison. It's not like you cant keep an old PC and fire it up whenever you want to play a game. The original point was that a new PC is far more likely to play a 10 year old game than any console out there. I don't think you can really dispute that, and I don't think you need to call anyone a nitwit for pointing that out.

If you don't see this as a benefit of the PC as a gaming platform than I don't know what to tell you.

One word is *OUCH!* ....
see the bold font... Yes thats what Yoshida said..

That is implying that consoles are worse. When will people realize that consoles and PC are needed platforms to make the most out of gaming...
Also, I plan on having a computer that runs a 32bit OS so I can play older games, but that may not be until 2014. It is far from easy to get older games to play on newer computers.

I play console games on my consoles, I play PC games on my PC. End of discussion

A console is not a PC. I didn't think I would need to be saying on that on OCN. They offer completely different perks and uses. Expecting the same out of your console as you do from your PC is silly because it isn't a PC. If you want to play your PS3 games then don't sell your PS3, it is as simply as that. Think the PS4 is to expensive without ps3 psn support? Skip it, since it doesn't have a PS3 built inside of it. I hope they don't ever change their minds on that if it keeps the price down.
Edited by CrazyHeaven - 3/2/13 at 2:10am

No that's not implying anything. You can still enjoy console gaming (like I do) and realize that there are still inherent benefits to PC gaming. Being able to play old games on a new PC is just one of them.

I agree with the post right above me by CrazyHeaven. I don't expect to be able to play PS3 games on my PS4 when I purchase it. That doesnt mean that I don't value the fact that with a little work I was able to get System Shock 2 working on my PC prior to it's recent re-release on GOG. This is an actual, real life benefit of PC gaming. There's really no need to dispute it.

I actually have a PS3 and a 360 and a wii controller on my PC. Some of these post make it seem like we should get upset because our xbox doesn't support the dual shock ps3 controller that we already have since their pc can do it.

I'm sure at some point the games will make the transfer to the ps4 but Sony isn't known for being fast on this. Look at how long it took them to get it working on the vita. It will probably never be 100% supported due to licenses which is beyond Sony's control.