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I heard and read an article that when using Adobe programs such as PS, Premiere, Fireworks, Dreamweaver, etc, Nvidia is the way to go because of it's CUDA cores and CUDA integration.

I might consider a GTX 660Ti due do the great price and performance as you can see below:
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Second thing, the processor.... i7-3930K... I think it is also too much, might be thinking about the -7-3820, its lower brother, still six cores but not clockable. What you guys think ?

in a little while haswell will be here. like we say here in ocn . . .

you might haswell wait.

edit: you are basing your decision on that chart? would not pay $300 or so for a 192 bit card.

here are my results for the 7950 . . .

Vantage: P40000
3D Mark 11: 11000

i can show my metro if you want.
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True smile.gif Ok, going for the GTX 660Ti smile.gif Thanks everybody !!! smile.gif
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True smile.gif Ok, going for the GTX 660Ti smile.gif Thanks everybody !!! smile.gif

my shogun, btw, is 99. gl with your card.rolleyes.gif
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True smile.gif Ok, going for the GTX 660Ti smile.gif Thanks everybody !!! smile.gif

Compute performance on the 6xx series is very bad compared to the 5xx series!

I haven't read the whole thread but are people misinforming you and telling you to get a gaming card with abysmal compute performance? A 580 handily beats a GTX680 in compute.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5699/nvidia-geforce-gtx-680-review/17
Edited by mechtech - 2/22/13 at 4:23am
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i read the gtx 5xx has better compute performance than the gtx 6xx.

Yeah, I've read comments like that for CS as well as for Sony VegasPro users. Quite a few posts about buying a GTX570/580 for that reason. Can't say for sure how much different it makes for CS (or VegasPro for that matter). Plus I kind of have a hard time buying a 500 series when according to some rumors rolleyes.gif the GTX700 series might be "only a 2-3 months away". That being said, I don't think it would be a bad idea at all to get a gently used GTX580 on the cheap from a reliable seller.
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Yeah, I've read comments like that for CS as well as for Sony VegasPro users. Quite a few posts about buying a GTX570/580 for that reason. Can't say for sure how much different it makes for CS (or VegasPro for that matter). Plus I kind of have a hard time buying a 500 series when according to some rumors rolleyes.gif the GTX700 series might be "only a 2-3 months away". That being said, I don't think it would be a bad idea at all to get a gently used GTX580 on the cheap from a reliable seller.

exactly. the 570 would be a better choice. +rep to you and mech.
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damnit guys !!!! tongue.gif So 570 huh ? Ok, will look into the performance issue with this card and get back to all of you ! smile.gif
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damnit guys !!!! tongue.gif So 570 huh ? Ok, will look into the performance issue with this card and get back to all of you ! smile.gif

That's a big reason I have yet to upgrade from my GTX580. If NVIDIA didn't nerf the current gen's (non Titan of course) cards GPU computing power, I'd have bought a GTX 670 or 680 by now while waiting on Maxwell. On the other hand, if $@#* Adobe didn't limit everything but PS to CUDA, I very might own a Radeon 7970 or 7950. Definitely think it's a good idea to do some more research. You might try searching the Adobe forums and/or a web search for how well the GTX600 series works for CS GPU acceleration vs. GTX500 series before buying. FWIW, I would also consider a GTX580 as well as GTX570 - just depends on price (also make sure to look at non-reference models for both as Fermi runs hotter than Kepler). GL.

Edit: Forgot to add comment regarding your question about the CPU. A lot depends upon how much you plan to overclock the CPU. i7-3930K will definitely OC better, but costs $270 more than a i7-3820. If you don't plan to OC hard, then a i7-3820. Plus, don't forget that "Ivy Bridge-E" is (supposedly) due out in Q3 (pretty sure that's right) this year. With that should come some 22nn CPUS for the LGA 2011 socket (down from 32nm). That's a significant die shrink. Point is that you might consider spending $300 now for the CPU with the thought of putting the extra $270 with a little extra towards a 22nm six or even eight core CPU a few months down the road. BTW, shouldn't your system memory be 4x4GB (for 16GB total) rather than "[2x 8GB] DDR3-1866 Corsair Vengeance" since the x79 chipset uses quad channel, not dual channel DRAM memory?
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The CPU. i7-3930K will definitely OC better, but costs $270 more than a i7-3820
True... now that I think about it, I don't think there will be a reason to overclock as I will be doing 90% of programming, graphics, compiling, multitasking, etc. Overclocking is not a necessity in this situation smile.gif Goesto11, would you recommend a AMD FX-8350 processor over the i7-3820 ? It has 8 cores.. not 6... smile.gif Plus its cheaper smile.gif
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Shouldn't your system memory be 4x4GB (for 16GB total) rather than "[2x 8GB] DDR3-1866 Corsair Vengeance" since the x79 chipset uses quad channel, not dual channel DRAM memory?
True ! Will definitely consider 4x4GB instead of 2x8GB smile.gif
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True... now that I think about it, I don't think there will be a reason to overclock as I will be doing 90% of programming, graphics, compiling, multitasking, etc. Overclocking is not a necessity in this situation smile.gif Goesto11, would you recommend a AMD FX-8350 processor over the i7-3820 ? It has 8 cores.. not 6... smile.gif Plus its cheaper smile.gif

That's a little hard for me to say definitively. In all honesty, I'm not familiar with compiling or programing so I don't know how much processing power is needed for that stuff. Probably not much for programing, but no clue on compiling. Out of curiosity, I did a quick search on some FX-8350 reviews and found this multi-tasking test. That review also had a a compiling benchmark test. The FX8350 does beat the I7-3820 in the compiling benchmark, but it's not by much (around 3% if my math works XD). From reading that review along with a couple others, my impression is that the I7-3280 is a better overall CPU, and if you do overclock a little (3.9-4.0Ghz), should be able to beat the FX8350 in almost, if not all, cases despite having two less cores.

Random things you might consider:
(1) How long do you expect to keep the system before upgrading? One advantage of the i7 3280 is as I mentioned above - clear upgrade path for "Ivy Bridge -E" CPUs (Haswell, on the other hand, will NOT work on Ivy Bridge boards. Intel changed the socket rolleyes.gif). May not matter now, but doesn't hurt to know that 6 - 9 months or even a year+ from now you can drop in a much faster 22nm six core or even eight core CPU for a significant performance boost. Won't be cheap, but I bet there's another 3280 type offering ($300 or so) offering in the mix. JMO, but I would think at least in terms of CPU processing power, there's more longevity with the i7/x79 chipset.
(2) Does quad channel DRAM (intel x79) offer any advantage for your work now or possibly in the future? In other words, how memory intensive is your work? If you plan to run several Adobe CS applications at the same time, the more memory & memory bandwidth the better I would think.
(3) I am NOT sure about this since it's been a while since I took a hard look at CPUs/chipsets, but I recall that at least initially, there was problems with the x79 and PCI-E 3.0. That may have been fixed by now, but something you might want to investigate just to be sure.

Other than that, probably a good idea to go over some reviews/benchmarks on both CPUs to seen how each performs with the same/similar type of software and tasks you'll be doing. I also suggest you post this question in the forum's CPU section - you might want to list any CPU intensive software you use specifically along with build specs. I'm sure there are plenty of people with much greater knowledge than me about which CPU is better for programing/compiling, etc.
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