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Thanks Goesto11 for the advice! A lot of points to take into consideration smile.gif

The other thing that I am worried about is the motherboard. Almost all the motherboards now come with UEFI.. instead of the BIOS ! That totally blows because if I want to boot into windows on a SSD drive I cannot. frown.gif With normal BIOS I can... but with UEFI... nope!!!!! A lot of people are talking about this problem and I haven't come across a solution as of yet ! Or I might be searching wrong ! Anyhow, I wanted the SSD to have a bootable operating system which would improve my overall performance smile.gif But with this problem still in hot pursuit, I am thinking about buying an SSD. frown.gif Any ideas about this UEFI stuff ?
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my motherboard has uefi and the ssd is just fine
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Dmanstasiu,

Really ?? So you installed your Windows onto the SSD drive, then booted it up and it ran just fine ??? So how come other people have this problem ?? What motherboard do you have ? What version of Windows are you booting up ? Please give me some more details smile.gif)
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Dmanstasiu,

Really ?? So you installed your Windows onto the SSD drive, then booted it up and it ran just fine ??? So how come other people have this problem ?? What motherboard do you have ? What version of Windows are you booting up ? Please give me some more details smile.gif)
I've never heard of this problem, everyone I know that has a UEFI had no problems with their SSD.
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Dmanstasiu,

Really ?? So you installed your Windows onto the SSD drive, then booted it up and it ran just fine ??? So how come other people have this problem ?? What motherboard do you have ? What version of Windows are you booting up ? Please give me some more details smile.gif)

Exactly. I think those were isolated cases with X79, and then some.

I'm running Windows 7, have never connected a regular hard drive to the system, using a Samsung 840 250GB SSD.

All the info you need is in my specs. If SSDs didn't work on z77 boards, people would be raising hell thumb.gif
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Dmanstasiu,

Really ?? So you installed your Windows onto the SSD drive, then booted it up and it ran just fine ??? So how come other people have this problem ?? What motherboard do you have ? What version of Windows are you booting up ? Please give me some more details smile.gif)

Can't speak to x79 chipsets - yet (hurry up w/ Ivy Bridge-E Intel!), but IMO I would not be concerned at all with using an SSD for OS/Programs. Once you get one, a regular HDD seems painfully slow. However, remember that to some extent SSDs have limited write/rewrite life (never defrag an SSD). What I suggest is that you get an SSD for Windows/Programs and have another HDD (2TB or maybe 3TB) for data storage. You can customize Win 7 (not even dealing with Win 8) so that "My documents", downloads, or whatever are set for the "D" drive rather than "C". That's the set up I have. Plus if for some reason you have to do a clean install of your OS, your data is on a separate drive so no worries about losing stuff.
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Thanks everybody for the feedback !!! smile.gif If I build my new rig, I will definitely do the setup Goesto11 suggested. So, I have decided to change my build.... as this is final smile.gif

Processor: Intel i7-3820 ( checked out the differences between this processor and i7-3930K and saw very little differences in the performance. Of course the i7-3930K is clockable, but the i7-3820 is also somewhat clockable and can get up to speeds of 4.0 - 4.2 GHz. ) Not bad... therefore... I am choosing this processor - $289.98

Processor Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 - $80.44

Motheboard: Asus P9X79 Deluxe - $349.99

RAM: G.Skill (4 x 4GB) RipJawsZ, 2133 MHz - $129.99

Harddrive: WD VelociRaptor 500GB, 64MB, 10000 RPM - $136.98
SSD: Samsung 840 250GB, 530 MB/s - $172.99

Graphics Cards: Asus Matrix GTX 580 Platinum ( http://www.maximumpc.com/article/%5Bprimary-term%5D/asus_matrix_gtx_580_platinum_review ) - $573.81

Sound Card: Creative SB Recon3D Fatality Professional - $84.99

Optical Drive: Pioneer BR-RE, DVDRW, BOX - $79.99

Case: CoolerMaster Cosmos II ( I picked this big huge case due to the big fat ass GTX 580 and also so that there will be plenty of air flow smile.gif ) - $318.98

PSU: Corsair HX Series HX850 - 850W, 80+ - $159.99

TOTAL: $2378.13


THat's all folks !!! smile.gif)
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Glad I could help. Build looks good overall (X-Dock feature is awesome for backing up data), but would like to add three suggestions.

  • Sound Card: If you're any sort of audiophile and can afford an extra $100 for the build, I highly recommend the Asus Xonar Essence STX sound card. Currently, it's $180 at NewEgg. I've owned the card for over 2 1/2 years and been very happy with it. Great sound and plenty of power. It's actually powered from a 4 pin molex connection and is rated for headphones up to 600ohms = you can use HQ headphones without needing to buy a separate headphone amp. No matter what my next build looks like, I'll be using that sound card. FYI - if you do decide to go with the Essence STX, I suggest buying a Sata power to 4 pin Molex adapter like this one in advance. Just an example - you can get them elsewhere online or locally.

  • Graphics Card: The Asus Matrix GTX 580 Platinum is a good card. Still, I suggest you consider the EVGA GTX580 Classified for four reasons. First, it has 3GB of VRAM rather than 1.5GB. Second, it should overclock at least as well if not better. Just flip a switch on the side of the card to unlock the voltage & you're good to go. (FYI - probably best to use the last build of EVGA Precision version 2 for voltage control rather than the most current version). I OC'd mine to 920Mhz with just a little bump in voltage (1.2v). It might OC more, but that was good enough for me. I've had zero problems with the card OC'd. Third, it comes with a life time warranty IF you register within 30 days. Fourth, you can buy it directly from EVGA for $530 (+ship) so it's a little cheaper. Only downside is that it may not run quite as cool as the Asus, and fan noise is probably louder due to its single fan blower design (which does at least blow hot air out of the case rather than inside). There's a link to reviews on the EVGA product webpage if you want detailed performance info.

  • 2nd Hard Drive: The VelociRaptor is definitely solid choice for a speedy HDD, but I wonder whether you will end up with enough storage space. I'm not an expert on Adobe CS, but my impression is that Adobe data files tend to be relatively large (at least PSD files are). Maybe just me, but 500MB for data seems kind of small these days. Plus, it's really less if you want to be able to defrag your HDD (at least 10% if not 15% minimum free space required). If you do want more storage, I suggest you consider the Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX which can be bought for $154 w/ free ship at BHPhoto. For less than $20 more, you get 4x the storage space. Obviously not as fast as the VelociRaptor, but it's a pretty fast 7200rpm HDD and I would think fast enough for work. The Seagate Barracuda STBD3000100 3TB HDD is another possible alternative for larger data storage. It is even faster (uses 1TB platters) and offers 50% more storage for about the same price, BUT I've read some complaints about reliability and it only has a 2 year warranty (WTH Seagate mad.gif). Frankly, I'd go with either the VelociRaptor (if 500GB enough) or WD2002FAEX.
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Other than that - Congrats on the new build. biggrin.gif
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Goesto11,
Your suggestions are tempting ! With that said:

  • Sound Card: I heard that the Asus Xonar Essence STX was awesome, but I am not that much of an audiophile. smile.gif I listen to music through my headphones once in a while, but to experiment and create music, not my thing. I might consider your proposition as I am thinking in the future regarding my build. It would be nice to have a sound card that rocks because I am going to be buying a 27 inch or 30 inch monitor for my computer and turning it into a nice home theater ... which very good speakers are an absolute necessity. So, when I'll be done with my build, I am definitely going to hook up the speakers to my computer and once essential part of that is the sound card, which you said. smile.gif
  • Graphics Card: Will change it to EVGA.. plus a life time warranty is a very attractive offer. No need to say more ! smile.gif
  • 2nd Hard Drive: When thinking about that 500GB VelociRaptor... you might be right. Now in these days, 500GB is little and Adobe files can tend to get very big. So with that said, I am going to get a 1 TB VelociRaptor. Then, I can always get a 3rd Hard Drive and just put it in.
Goesto11 - Are you on this forum all the time ? You helped me a lot ! Is there anyway I can keep contact ? If you need some advise too, it'll be my pleasure to help you ! smile.gif Also, is there such a thing as giving a member of the forum some kudos ? Or points ?

Thanks Goesto11 ! smile.gif
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D0min13 - Looks good biggrin.gif. Some extra $$$, but better too big than too small for your data HDD IMO.

Speaking of HDDs, I'm sure you're already aware of this so just a friendly reminder. The Cosmos II comes with two "X-DOCK" front panel HDD hot swap bays. I installed an aftermarket one in mine and absolutely love it (I have something rediculous like 22TB of total storage). It's SO easy to back up files with a front bay HDD hotswap rack compared to my old e-sata external enclosure. Anyway, if you're installing Windows 7 (I would think also true for Win 8, but I'm avoiding that like the plague), make sure you have your motherboard bios is set to "ACHI" for your SATA ports BEFORE you install Windows. I got some bad advice and had to full format and then install Windows 7 a second time mad.gif Also, there's a nice little free program called "Hotswap!" which works great with Win 7. It makes hot swapping a breeze. WD Raptor & Black drives are very good IMO, but nothing's perfect -especially when it comes to computer hardware so I'm sure you will want to back up your work frequently to be safe. As for your SSD, there's a very good "sticky" thread in the hard drive forum with all sorts of tips for maximizing SSD performance & longevity. Don't forget to connect it to the INTEL/NATIVE SATA 6.0GB/s connection on your motherboard and NOT the Asus added Marvell chip controlled ones. wink.gif

Overall, I'm glad I was able to help. With my last build, I had problems initially, and OCN members helped me considerably back then. So I'm happy to return the favor to someone else. As for "points" or "credit", If you like someone's post/found it helpful, there's a "rep+" button located to the left of the "reply"/"quote"/"multi" buttons found at the bottom right of each post. Click on the "rep+" button (leaving a comment is optional), and that member gets +1 added to their rep total each time you rep one of their posts.

In terms of being logged on to OCN, I'm mostly hit or miss though recently I've been on everyday because I'm working possible upgrades. Even if I'm not on the site that often in the future, I do log on fairly frequently so feel free to send me a PM whenever you want, and I'll get back to you promptly. If you want, I'll be more than happy to give what advice I can when you're ready to buy that 27 or 30" monitor thumb.gif Besides, given my software/programming skills (or more accurately lack thereof XD), I may very well take you up on your offer to help. biggrin.gif

Good luck with your build. I think you'll be very happy with it. When it's finished, posts some pics!
Edited by goesto11 - 2/26/13 at 6:20pm
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