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Ya but that might just be more of a problem with the people using Kickstarter tongue.gif

Unlike some other devs I backed Inxile is very up-front with their progress, direction, and communication with backers. So I expect the "whining" to be less.
It is simply amazing that this game is even being created, and the people behind it. If it takes till 2015 to finish it but they do it right, I'm ok with this.
One of the biggest challenges will be the story and player depth. The fancy graphics is really just a plus for this type of game. The Engine they are using is great.
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Ya but that might just be more of a problem with the people using Kickstarter tongue.gif

Unlike some other devs I backed Inxile is very up-front with their progress, direction, and communication with backers. So I expect the "whining" to be less.
It is simply amazing that this game is even being created, and the people behind it. If it takes till 2015 to finish it but they do it right, I'm ok with this.
One of the biggest challenges will be the story and player depth. The fancy graphics is really just a plus for this type of game. The Engine they are using is great.

SRPG's have never been about anything but gameplay. Some of the best in existence are purely text-driven. Nobody understands this anymore.
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post #13 of 22
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Criticize a product that is somewhere remotely close to finished.

whoa! yeah sure whatever I'm like totally like something like: (you know like reading comprehension and stuff like man.)
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Bought it and keep forgetting about it. I hope they put some more effort into the graphics before release as it doesn't look much better than Fallout Tactics right now, but I'm excited none the less

It's fun to quote yourself.
 
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Ya but that might just be more of a problem with the people using Kickstarter tongue.gif

Unlike some other devs I backed Inxile is very up-front with their progress, direction, and communication with backers. So I expect the "whining" to be less.
It is simply amazing that this game is even being created, and the people behind it. If it takes till 2015 to finish it but they do it right, I'm ok with this.
One of the biggest challenges will be the story and player depth. The fancy graphics is really just a plus for this type of game. The Engine they are using is great.

Fancy graphics are a plus I agree but most games in the genre have looked their "age" no worse no better. It's not much to expect. I'm not looking for something to blow my mind but I hold the bar the same way I held it when measuring the real Fallout games, I compared them to their peers after i bought them and they held up.
 
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whoa! yeah sure whatever I'm like totally like something like: (you know like reading comprehension and stuff like man.)
It's fun to quote yourself.

My reading comprehension is fine. Your insistence on comparing an incomplete game that you can easily view the art assets for in detail as being created in 2k or better resolution to one that can't even run on current technology without adaptation is rather ludicrous, however. Forgive me if I immediately call out any misrepresentation of the facts. It's a habit.
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My reading comprehension is fine. Your insistence on comparing an incomplete game that you can easily view the art assets for in detail as being created in 2k or better resolution to one that can't even run on current technology without adaptation is rather ludicrous, however. Forgive me if I immediately call out any misrepresentation of the facts. It's a habit.

Until artwork/resourcess are in game and showcased in a demo they are of no consequence.
 
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Until artwork/resourcess are in game and showcased in a demo they are of no consequence.

Then why have you been critiquing them?
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Then why have you been critiquing them?

If you want to have a discussion read my posts, if you have questions or don't understand what I've written ask me and i will clarify.
 
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Bought it and keep forgetting about it. I hope they put some more effort into the graphics before release as it doesn't look much better than Fallout Tactics right now, but I'm excited none the less

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Yep, that's why I'm asking for better looks.

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Well I don't agree with you. The graphics would have been passable or OK back in 2006. Don't get me wrong I'm still going to play it, already bought it so. But I'm not going to be enthusiastic about a Higher res version of Commandos backgrounds with Fallout Tactics lookalike enemies.

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Fancy graphics are a plus I agree but most games in the genre have looked their "age" no worse no better. It's not much to expect. I'm not looking for something to blow my mind but I hold the bar the same way I held it when measuring the real Fallout games, I compared them to their peers after i bought them and they held up.

And then
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Until artwork/resourcess are in game and showcased in a demo they are of no consequence.

I'm just staying on the topic you chose here.

InXile may have a pedigree, but they are a small company. This is a low budget game given the inflation of production costs in the last 12 years since Fallout: Tactics was released, and while you may have found it impressive at the time, it was actually very underwhelming for the rest of us. There was actually a lot of complaints about the fact that the game looked identical to the last two, with a slightly higher resolution setting in the options menu. That is to say, games 4-5 years older than it. So you can safely date the graphical fidelity of the game at around 1997. Which is giving it a lot of leeway, since Ultima Online looked better, and that was an MMO with graphical assets fleshed out in '96.

So uh... Do you actually want me to throw up a screenshot so you can count the pixels? It won't be hard at 1080p, I promise you.
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And then
I'm just staying on the topic you chose here.

I'm talking about overall looks and they don't please me, they look like something from 2006 at best.
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InXile may have a pedigree, but they are a small company. This is a low budget game given the inflation of production costs in the last 12 years since Fallout: Tactics was released, and while you may have found it impressive at the time, it was actually very underwhelming for the rest of us. There was actually a lot of complaints about the fact that the game looked identical to the last two, with a slightly higher resolution setting in the options menu. That is to say, games 4-5 years older than it. So you can safely date the graphical fidelity of the game at around 1997. Which is giving it a lot of leeway, since Ultima Online looked better, and that was an MMO with graphical assets fleshed out in '96.


Fallout tactics


Fallout 2


No there weren't many complains about the graphical similarities, nor did many feel like it was outdated. I never said the graphics were impressive, it's just that they weren't bad. Sticking with a style when making a sequel (even if it's non canon) is rarely seen as a bad thing, unless the style was disliked.

Another game in isometric released in 2001 for comparison (arcanum)



And here's ultima online



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So uh... Do you actually want me to throw up a screenshot so you can count the pixels? It won't be hard at 1080p, I promise you.

No thanks, I'm set. That snippy sentence at the end made me see that I was wrong about everything and now i agree with your viewpoint.
 
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CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
H212 W7 21.5 Sidewinder x4/Lenovo with Trackpoint 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec 900w Define r2 MX518 Qpad 1.5mm 
Audio
Edifier R1900TII 2.0 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
II X4 965 Gigabyte GA-MA785GMT-UD2H Sapphire 5770 DDR3 1600mhz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
2x 500gb DVD H212 windows 7 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
3x Benq 21.5 inch X4 chieftec 650w Define mini 
Mouse
mx518 
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