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Not sure how you get this idea. I've had my grandparents using Linux since 2008 just fine. They even think for what they do ( general stuff, emails, browsing, word, etc ) that it much easier than Windows. Along with them not having to worry about viruses or such, and it made their slightly older computer quite snappy. I converted my brother and mother 2 years ago and they've not had an issue since.

I can agree that some people have bad experiences, and thus give it a bad rep, but you can't account user error with the operating system. I know a few people ( regulars at my friends shop ) that bring their laptop in with Windows completely trashed. Windows is, just as user unfriendly as Linux. And with Ubuntu/Mint's installers, even installing it is easier than Windows.

Other than that, there's nothing wrong with it at all. It's lighter than Windows, which means it can make quite a few older machines snappier again. It's free ( monetary and freedom ), not only does it not cost you $200 to update, for those who are interested in learning and customization, there's no better place. There's little maintenance needed. You don't have to manually update programs as that's all done for you, and Ubuntu and Mint even tell you when there are updates available and it's a password and 1 click away. No viruses to worry about ( at least, not many, and not unless you know exactly where to look ). Want software? Open up the software manager and look for it. No more traveling the vast endlessness of the internet.

 

Wow.  I'm sold.

 

So, is the password required?  I mean, are you required to set a password, or can you be password-free?

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Wow.  I'm sold.

So, is the password required?  I mean, are you required to set a password, or can you be password-free?

you need a password.
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you need a password.

 

Well, that's alright though because there was this one time where my brother installed something on my computer that I didn't want.  It's been a few years since anyone else has used my computer, but still!  That was irritating!  lol  So, that's actually a pretty nice feature.

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Well, that's alright though because there was this one time where my brother installed something on my computer that I didn't want.  It's been a few years since anyone else has used my computer, but still!  That was irritating!  lol  So, that's actually a pretty nice feature.

you can sew it up so it auto logs in but, to install stuff or mess with the os you need the password.
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Wow.  I'm sold.

So, is the password required?  I mean, are you required to set a password, or can you be password-free?

I believe the installers make it required, but in all honesty, it isn't a problem. It's not like Windows UAC which was as intrusive as a tick on the head of a penis. The only time it asks you for a password is when you're leaving your home directory and going into root, which depending on how much you get into the system or not, could be once a week or several times a day. Basically updates come every so often, and aside from that... I can't think of any other mandatory task that asks you for it aside from installing software from the software manager. Also keep in mind it stays active for 5 minutes ( this time can be changed though ), or as long as the program is open, so if you're doing a bunch of stuff at once, you don't have to keep re-authenticating.

Can use a simple password so it's no big deal though tongue.gif
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This makes me think of the differences between home-built computers and pre-builts (but highly-customizable pre-builts lol).
Insanely appropriate analogy. Its almost exactly like that. Arch/Gentoo/Slack are Home-built distros (i.e. you the user, builds the system at home from components) and Ubuntu and Mint are pre-built distros. Though with one neat difference, instead of there being any proprietary hardware (odd shaped PSUs, motherboards with missing connectors, etc..) its all Linux standard stuff, so if you want to customize or change things - you can.
    
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you can sew it up so it auto logs in but, to install stuff or mess with the os you need the password.

 

Oh, ok.  That sounds alright.  :)

 

 

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I believe the installers make it required, but in all honesty, it isn't a problem. It's not like Windows UAC which was as intrusive as a tick on the head of a penis. The only time it asks you for a password is when you're leaving your home directory and going into root, which depending on how much you get into the system or not, could be once a week or several times a day. Basically updates come every so often, and aside from that... I can't think of any other mandatory task that asks you for it aside from installing software from the software manager. Also keep in mind it stays active for 5 minutes ( this time can be changed though ), or as long as the program is open, so if you're doing a bunch of stuff at once, you don't have to keep re-authenticating.

Can use a simple password so it's no big deal though tongue.gif

 

As intrusive as a tick on the head of a.penis.  lol  Awesome.  I have to remember this one!

 

I like the fact that the password can be simple because I was just thinking that I would be making a simple one.  :)

 

 

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Insanely appropriate analogy. Its almost exactly like that. Arch/Gentoo/Slack are Home-built distros (i.e. you the user, builds the system at home from components) and Ubuntu and Mint are pre-built distros. Though with one neat difference, instead of there being any proprietary hardware (odd shaped PSUs, motherboards with missing connectors, etc..) its all Linux standard stuff, so if you want to customize or change things - you can.

 

I'm beginning to see now why people who love Linux love Linux!  It's beginning to sound like I may be wondering why I liked Windows.  Man, if only I had woken up just a couple of hours ago.  lol

 

I've been bored lately, so it sounds like I just found the cure.  I hope I don't feel different tomorrow after I've gotten some sleep.  I still have to eat my dinner here, so I'm definitely going to be around for a while yet but my brain isn't ready to do anything other than manage this thread. lol

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Insanely appropriate analogy. Its almost exactly like that. Arch/Gentoo/Slack are Home-built distros (i.e. you the user, builds the system at home from components) and Ubuntu and Mint are pre-built distros. Though with one neat difference, instead of there being any proprietary hardware (odd shaped PSUs, motherboards with missing connectors, etc..) its all Linux standard stuff, so if you want to customize or change things - you can.


Exactly. Start with something easy like ubuntu, fedora, mint. Get the hang of it and in your free time mess around with Arch, Gentoo or something of that nature. You will learn an insane amount. I still don't have my Arch install working (because i'm a perfectionist and ran out of time) but I love coming home and fiddling with it. I tri boot windows 7, Arch, and Fedora. I'm just finishing up the fedora install and it's easy and the communities are awesome.

From someone who goes back and forth frequently it's worth it. Soon enough I'll be strictly linux once i get starcraft II working. :-)
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^ gksu and sudo are your friend. Don't ever use root for normal things like updating software. tongue.gif

gksu (http://www.unix.com/man-page/all/1/gksu/) basically runs a program as superuser, in GUI format

sudo (http://www.unix.com/man-page/linux/8/sudo/) just runs as superuser

sudo apt-get / sudo aptitude have been replaced by Synaptic Package Manager or "synaptic" (which is GUI)

* As far as I know as long as it is a real install and not a LiveUSB/LiveDVD you do need a password for the root admin
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You don't need root password, you can use sudo. Then again, you should have root password and not use sudo tongue.gif
    
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