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I've only ever used PC Power & Cooling PSUs in my systems so outside of them I'm not entirely sure what I should be looking at anymore. I was looking at their MK2 series but their 600 watt is white...NOT the color I'm going for here lol.

My first PSU that lasted forever from them was the turbo 510, and right now I got the Quad 750 which is more power than I really need.

So basically I want 1) Black or red 2) Modular...if they include sleeved cables it's a huge plus, or at least someone who sells them 3) Seasonic, Antec?, Pc Power & Cooling are the only great ones I know. Corsairs I've heard are just average budget builds. What do I know though. I have heard Rosewill has become quite the contender in PSU's as well.

If you're just a brand whore because OH GET A CORSAIR BECAUSE ITS CORSAIR!, please go to another thread.

Thanks in advance guys biggrin.gif

It'll be running the system below, I'm getting a new CPU like the 8350 and it'll also be running the XSPC RS360 kit.

[edit] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088 thoughts?
Edited by SpykeZ - 2/21/13 at 5:17pm
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The X-650 is nice (very nice), but it's quite overkill unless you want to have two 7970s.

 

Actually, will you ever have two video cards?

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post #3 of 22
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The X-650 is nice (very nice), but it's quite overkill unless you want to have two 7970s.

Actually, will you ever have two video cards?

I'm thinking about picking up another 7950 for giggles at some point yes. What I'm unsure of is the pictures on newegg show the cables as sleeved, but all the review sites aren't sleeved. Were those just demo models for the sites to review?
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post #4 of 22
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I'm thinking about picking up another 7950 for giggles at some point yes.

 

Oh, then a quality-made 550W would be more than enough:

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/radeon_hd_7950_crossfire_review_2_and_3_way,5.html

 

With two 7950s under full load in their test system, their PSU pulled about 435W from the wall outlet.  The graph shows 279, but this excludes the rest of the system.  The idle wattage for this setup in their system would be about 150-160, so I should use 155W.  That comes out to 434, so I rounded up to 435.  Now, their CPU was idling during this power draw test (it's always idling during their video card power draw test), so I have to add about 150W for the CPU which makes the PSU pulling 585W from the wall outlet.  So if the PSU is 85% efficient while pulling 585W from the wall outlet, then the system is only pulling 497W from the PSU.  The actual gaming load will be closer to about 400 to maybe 450W at times (depending on the game).  So, a quality-made 550W power supply would be more than enough because the kind of PSU I'm talking about can deliver its rated wattage continuously if it's ever needed.

 

However, I will recommend a nice 650W unit just so it's easier to find one that has enough PCI-E cables without needing to spend a fortune.

 

Here's my first recommendation: 

 

650W Rosewill CAPSTONE Modular Cable Version Series for $104.99 shipped

 

Of course, the X-650 is only $19.99 more.

 

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Originally Posted by SpykeZ View Post

What I'm unsure of is the pictures on newegg show the cables as sleeved, but all the review sites aren't sleeved. Were those just demo models for the sites to review?

 

Oh, I don't know.  This is a good question.


Edited by TwoCables - 2/21/13 at 5:50pm
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There is the PSU program in my sig. Use it smile.gif
 
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What about adding a water pump to the mix. Also, what's your opinion on this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151119

That program of yours gives me a rating of 820 with two of my 7950's overclocked. O.o 575 with just my current 7950 OC'd excluding the fact I'll be running a pump as well. Think I'll just stick with that 650
Edited by SpykeZ - 2/21/13 at 5:59pm
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post #7 of 22
I'm watching http://www.techbargains.com/ for something that's a good PSU at like 50% off and hopefully one day a good deal will line up with my bank account balance.
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What about adding a water pump to the mix. Also, what's your opinion on this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151119

 

Omg, I forgot about that one!  It wasn't the lowest priced high-quality 550W modular PSU for a while there.  It always was, and now it is again.  Nice.  This is another very nice PSU.

 

I think adding a water pump will be fine.  I forgot to ask something though:  will you be overclocking the 7950s?  Will you be overvolting them?

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What about adding a water pump to the mix. Also, what's your opinion on this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151119

That program of yours gives me a rating of 820 with two of my 7950's overclocked. O.o 575 with just my current 7950 OC'd excluding the fact I'll be running a pump as well. Think I'll just stick with that 650

 

Did you also say "over 40% CPU overclock"?

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Did you also say "over 40% CPU overclock"?

I did and it bumped it up to like 800 watts, I Dunno if i'll actually get 40% OC though? Does it really matter? I know I'll be pushing that 8350 as far as I can. I'm currently sitting on 4.0ghz on my 965 with 1.5v

My 7950's are OC'd and overvolted. 1150/1575 + 20% power @ 1250v


So basically what it is:

AMD 8350 OC'd to whatever I can hit
7950 OC'd to whats in my sig with the +20% power thing and 1250v or mv or whatever it's called
XSPC Raystorm RS360 kit
Roughly 10 fans (6 on the radiator + 4 through out the case)
3HDD's, 1SSD, 1 optical drive, 2 sticks of memory
Edited by SpykeZ - 2/21/13 at 6:07pm
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