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2/21/13 at 7:08pm
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Hello, first off I'm new here and I just wanted to say hi before I start bugging you all with questions you probably get all the time. So, my system as it sits right now is an AMD phenom II x4 that 3.2 overclocked to 3.8, an ASUS M4A78T-E mobo, 8 gigs of OCZ gold DDR3 RAM, Seagate barracuda Tb main drive, some old 250 GB hard drive with xp on it, an XFX HD7970 Graphics card and a corsair 750 watt modular psu. It is currently all in a 12 yr old case with a Koolance liquid cooler on it and I want to get absolutely every drop out of this thing I can, which leads to the phase change cooling. I have never done phase change before but I'm not a complete idiot and willing to try pretty much anything when it comes to this stuff so I'm ready for this. I know you need some basic parts like the compressor, evaporator, tubing, condenser, the drier/filter, and the other things that are slipping my mind right now(Please feel free to let me know what I missed). I have a compressor,BUT, I have no clue about it. I paid some guys to fix a freezer at my restaurant, long story short, they got me the wrong one, took my money and skipped town. I will get it out tomorrow so I can get the numbers off it and hopefully figure something out about it. So far that is all I know and have to do this. Any and all help is greatly appreciated. Thank You.
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2/21/13 at 7:38pm
Have you read this one?

http://www.overclockers.com/build-your-own-phase-change-pc-cooling-system/

Good place to start, great read if you haven't already seen it.
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2/21/13 at 9:44pm
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I have read the thread and I can honestly say that I think I have more questions now than before I started it. I'm going to start by finding out what the pump is and I will report back as soon as I get my hands on it, thanks for the link, it was definitely loaded with information though a little long to try to follow with only a couple readings, going to have to give it a few more looks.
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2/22/13 at 10:41pm
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Okay, I am finally back in town and I am excited to report that it was not just a compressor that they ripped me off but a condenser that is also attached along with a couple other things. Here are a few pics of what I have to start.




Any info you have on what I have I would love to hear, hopefully this stuff is a decent start.
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2/23/13 at 7:51pm
It looks like you got yourself a 1/3hp r12 condensing unit there, excellent base for a ss unit. That r12 compressor will most likely provide lower temps than a comparable Copeland r404a unit, especially on your 955. Which refrigerants do you have available? Are you going to make your own cap in cap evap or go with something like a Chilly1. You can purchase most or all of the parts needed at http://under-the-ice.com/.

Parts needed:
Evaporator and enclosure
3/8" ID flex line (recommend 4ft)
Closed Cell Pipe Insulation 1/2min -3/4" wall thickness
Sleeving for evap line optional
.031" captube(usually comes in 10-12ft lengths (lmk evap, heat load(current and possible future cpu's)and refrigerant for recommended size)
filter/drier with integrated highside access valve
5/16" or 3/8" copper tee + lowside access valve if needed.
refrigerant (it must be compatible with AB oil, if not then add 5% propane or just change oil if needed)

Supplies and equipment:
Oxy/acetylene torch or at least oxy/mapp kit
brazing rod and flux
vacuum pump
manifold gauge set
shield gas

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2/23/13 at 8:10pm
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I know someone in town that owns an auto shop that has some r12 that he doesn't ever use so I can get that from him. As for a vacuum pump I don't know yet. I have a decent set of Oxy/acetylene torches, I'm not that good with them as I nearly never use them. As for shielding gas, I bought the biggest miller Mig welder that would run on 110 last year and that has argon with it I think, would that work? For the evaporator and housing, I am decently useful with tools(or at least I think I am), but for the safety of my hardware I think I will buy one. Thanks for the help.

Edit: After looking at their site for a while it seems that the best option would be to just buy this http://under-the-ice.com/product_info.php?products_id=138 and get the valves too. I would have to ask for a longer flex line but they said that that is an option. The only other thing is that this kit does not say it includes an enclosure and as I am new to this and its not a very good picture I am not sure if it does so would I have to buy the clear plexi enclosure on the site as well? Please let me know if this is a good kit, Thank you.
Edited by nookiemrsmith - 2/24/13 at 2:29pm
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2/25/13 at 10:35pm
The Phenoms scale very well with temperature.. the colder the faster. R12 only has a boiling point of -29.8c.. try and find something in the -40c range like r404a or r507. Argon will work fine.. just slip a hose over or inside the welding torch head and tape if needed. Btw.. you only need a tiny trickle of flow.

The evap enclosure would be the universal mounting kit. 3ft should be fine.. I don't see an additional 1ft costing much more though.. probably less than $15 extra. I've heard good things about this kit.. it's really your only option atm anyways.
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