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About the drivers. Titan is a Kepler GPU, just like the GTX 6XX cards. If and when there are driver improvements, they will most likely boost the performance of all the Kepler cards, not just the Titan's. So anyone expecting the Titan to get better compared to other Nvidia cards over time: don't count on it.
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About the drivers. Titan is a Kepler GPU, just like the GTX 6XX cards. If and when there are driver improvements, they will most likely boost the performance of all the Kepler cards, not just the Titan's. So anyone expecting the Titan to get better compared to other Nvidia cards over time: don't count on it.
That makes no sense. It is still a different card, and gains will happen. Sorry if you are unhappy to here so?
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That makes no sense. It is still a different card, and gains will happen. Sorry if you are unhappy to here so?

It does make sense. Titan is basically more of the same than other Keplers, and driver optimizations are optimizations on getting the most out of the GPU architecture that is Kepler. Not unhappy about it at all.
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It does make sense. Titan is basically more of the same than other Keplers, and driver optimizations are optimizations on getting the most out of the GPU architecture that is Kepler. Not unhappy about it at all.
Thats like saying a 580 and a 560ti should get the same type of improvements since they are both Fermi, it makes no sense at all. GK110 is different from the GK104 in so many ways it is just silly to say such a thing.
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it's a good argument on both sides, both make good points.
that's all I'm gonna say though, not picking.
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Thats like saying a 580 and a 560ti should get the same type of improvements since they are both Fermi, it makes no sense at all. GK110 is different from the GK104 in so many ways it is just silly to say such a thing.

I'm not going to argue with you on this any more than this. GK104 and GK110 are both Kepler as the codename says. Most of the driver optimizations are universal for a given architecture, just like the Catalyst improvements we've seen lately that boost the performance on all the Radeons based on GCN architecture.

Of course there are things in the GK110 that simply aren't there on the GK104, but those have little to no effect on the gaming side of things. Computing will see big gains on the Titan, but for gaming the Keplers will get better proportionally.
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I'm not going to argue with you on this any more than this. GK104 and GK110 are both Kepler as the codename says. Most of the driver optimizations are universal for a given architecture, just like the Catalyst improvements we've seen lately that boost the performance on all the Radeons based on GCN architecture.

Of course there are things in the GK110 that simply aren't there on the GK104, but those have little to no effect on the gaming side of things. Computing will see big gains on the Titan, but for gaming the Keplers will get better proportionally.

+1 on this.... If there were specially made drivers for the TITAN alone, like "Nvidia TITAN driver 3xx.xx" i would say "Huge Gains" will be expected, but since the TITAN is listed among the kepler cards, the titan will not magically boost away from the 680 and below... tongue.gif Who knows, maybe the drivers will even bring the 680 closer to the Titan in gaming tongue.gif
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i think by this point the 660 TI is maxed out. I don't think drivers can help much more.

tongue.gif that's what some people said for the 7xxx series till AMD struck biggrin.gif, and BTW the drivers won't increase the GPU's speed, overclocking will do that, the drivers will just increase the communication between the games and the gpu wink.gif
i never believed that the 7xxx series were done. They have a lot of raw power. Especially since AMD takes so long to make good drivers. At least now. I don't know how it was for AMD in the past compared to nvidia.

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About the drivers. Titan is a Kepler GPU, just like the GTX 6XX cards. If and when there are driver improvements, they will most likely boost the performance of all the Kepler cards, not just the Titan's. So anyone expecting the Titan to get better compared to other Nvidia cards over time: don't count on it.
since when do driver updates increase the performance for cards all at the same level? I never see that on the driver page notes. And it doesn't happen according to benchmarks either.
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About the drivers. Titan is a Kepler GPU, just like the GTX 6XX cards. If and when there are driver improvements, they will most likely boost the performance of all the Kepler cards, not just the Titan's. So anyone expecting the Titan to get better compared to other Nvidia cards over time: don't count on it.
That makes no sense. It is still a different card, and gains will happen. Sorry if you are unhappy to here so?
and dude I don't understand why people automatically have to get aggressive in this forum. It's really annoying. You're automatically assuming something about him without knowing anything, saying how he feels unhappy about what you said when he had a different idea about how the drivers are updated, and would not even be thinking about what you said.
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i never believed that the 7xxx series were done. They have a lot of raw power. Especially since AMD takes so long to make good drivers. At least now. I don't know how it was for AMD in the past compared to nvidia.
since when do driver updates increase the performance for cards all at the same level? I never see that on the driver page notes. And it doesn't happen according to benchmarks either.

Driver page notes rarely tell the whole story. I still remember after the 500 series came out my 470's were receiving performance gains but it was very rarely listed in the page notes. Generally though the entire architecture gains a boost unless the driver fixes a specific issue with a card. I think we'll most definitely see SLI scaling improve on Titan but I'm not sure how much more we can expect that'll be unique to Titan.
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