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I'm glad I checked into this thread again after installing my block. xD

 
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Originally Posted by FarmerJo View Post

hey guys just a quick question. do any of you still use the llc hack? if so what drivers are you on. when ever i enable this i get random shutdowns during games and i was just wondering if other people had this to.
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Originally Posted by OccamRazor View Post

Have you tried the latest WHQL? http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/geforce_332_21_whql_driver_download.html
Its been only a day since i have them installed but no LLC problems yet! rolleyes.gif

Cheers

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Quote:
Originally Posted by skupples View Post

seems to be the common theme with the last few driver packs that have come out since the release of 780Ti. I personally don't use it any more, but i haven't really tried messing with it to see if it would crash my system. Hell, I don't even have the volt mod running right now.
Thank you guys for bringing this up. I have some related inquiries on the matter.

i) Does disabling LLC lower maximum possible overclock at the same voltage?
ii) Is it possible to identify whether a crash is caused by the LLC hack or an unstable overclock?

I ask these questions because it seems that my stable overclock has become unstable after doing the volt mod, disabling LLC and installing the new drivers and I want to identify what caused it.

Thank you very much! smile.gif
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As you can see there´s 2 dead Titans with burned inductors!
In my book is better to be safe than sorry! thumb.gif

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ahnafakeef View Post


Well ive been running 1.325 volts for a while 24/7 and benched with 1.4 volts with no issues... But i just redone my loop and put those pads on there just in case.


Thank you guys for bringing this up. I have some related inquiries on the matter.

i) Does disabling LLC lower maximum possible overclock at the same voltage?
ii) Is it possible to identify whether a crash is caused by the LLC hack or an unstable overclock?

I ask these questions because it seems that my stable overclock has become unstable after doing the volt mod, disabling LLC and installing the new drivers and I want to identify what caused it.

Thank you very much! smile.gif

i) Setting LLC to 0% increases maximum clocks because voltages stay constant.
This will give you a better OC, depending on how much your voltage drops..
Mine will drop from 1.325~ to 1.26 under very high loads, less so with less taxing games.
In a specific case, NS2 i have voltages dropping down to 1.25~ and it stays around there, max GPU clocks at that voltage is 1254~, with a constant 1.325 with LLC at 0% max stable clock rises to 1346.

So yes, enabling llc to default will lower overclock.

ii) for me i have to considerably lower core clock in games that LLC causes crashing.. You will know when its LLC. Find your stable clock with voltage of 1.25-1.3 with LLC at default, then set LLC to 0%.. Try games and other benches and see if you are unstable.
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i) Setting LLC to 0% increases maximum clocks because voltages stay constant.
This will give you a better OC, depending on how much your voltage drops..
Mine will drop from 1.325~ to 1.26 under very high loads, less so with less taxing games.
In a specific case, NS2 i have voltages dropping down to 1.25~ and it stays around there, max GPU clocks at that voltage is 1254~, with a constant 1.325 with LLC at 0% max stable clock rises to 1346.

So yes, enabling llc to default will lower overclock.

ii) for me i have to considerably lower core clock in games that LLC causes crashing.. You will know when its LLC. Find your stable clock with voltage of 1.25-1.3 with LLC at default, then set LLC to 0%.. Try games and other benches and see if you are unstable.
i) That is what I knew about 0% LLC as well. But the contradiction is my experience when after doing volt mod, setting LLC to 0% and updating driver to 332.21, my previously stable OC of 1202/1752 @1.212v in BF4 crashed.

But can't the voltage also go up by a certain amount when LLC is enabled? Is it possible that (before disabling LLC) when I set the voltage to 1.212v, it was going up by 0.025v to allow those speeds to be stable? (I'm thinking no, since the volt mod wasn't enabled and the limit on voltage was 1.212v).

And why would voltage drop by that much, especially since LLC is disabled?

ii) Isn't the whole purpose of disabling LLC to increase overclock? So isn't it kind of deleterious that it is forcing you to lower your core clock?

That is exactly what I did. BF4 ran fine at 1202/1752 @1.212v with no volt mod, default LLC settings and 331.93 BETA drivers. Then I did the volt mod, disabled LLC and updated to 332.21 WHQL and the same speeds at the same voltage crashed. What do you suggest I do now?


I apologize for the long post.

And btw, kudos on that overclock. I wish I could run that kind of speeds on my Titan.
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Meh will I be ok w/o it or no, and vs tape can I just use 0.5 mm on it ?
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What for? It was to my understanding inductors do not cause a lot of heat, and can handle high temps anyways.

As Ed says above, two of us have dead Titans due to the memory inductors/chokes popping, quite literally. Mine went from grey to dark brown and spewed a load of liquid out.

It also got so damn hot that even the solder looks to have melted.
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As you can see there´s 2 dead Titans with burned inductors!
In my book is better to be safe than sorry! thumb.gif

Cheers

Ed

(Skyn3t Team)

May I ask if you advice to put some thermal tape on these inductors even with the stock cooler ?

As far as I remeber there is tape only on the memory and VRMs and not these sqare inductors on stock cooler.

If I should put t.tape on them, what would be the ideal size so they could sqeeze under the stock cooler - 0.5mm or 1mm ?

Thanks gang smile.gif
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Hey would you know if those threaded QDC can safely work with rads and not leak? was thinking of putting it on one of my rads so I can separate my loop easier.
yes. no problem. i use the right-angle swivel connectors...
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As Ed says above, two of us have dead Titans due to the memory inductors/chokes popping, quite literally. Mine went from grey to dark brown and spewed a load of liquid out.
It also got so damn hot that even the solder looks to have melted.

now i understand MrTooshort's incident... he was probably pushing 1.5V or higher in a bench. How did you burn yours up?
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Hi Guys

here we go:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1458261/enthoo-primo-black-and-red-liquid-cooling

build log for the enthoo primo with two titans. I plan on get solid data on the differences between EK and Komodos blocks since I have control of the water temp in my current rig and can compare it as a delta to base water temp.

Pumps and rads tested and flushed already and will be updating as progress go. Right now I am torn apart of using chrome or black fittings....

Cheers

Gabriel
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