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you can force d3doverride. You download the standalone, then open up rivatuner, go to the d3doverride tab, set detection level to high, & coordinate space to framebuffer. Doing this has resolved pretty much all stuttering issues... You have to remember though that most of these MMO's are CPU bound through & through.

There seems to be allot of misinformation about d3doverride floating around these days. The Triple buffering in Nvidia control panel is only meant for OpenGL, but triple buffering is not openGL only. You can force it in said games using d3doverride. It's no coincidence that my stuttering issues have magically vanished since using the tool. I'm not actually sure the rivatuner part is necessary, as that mostly controls the OSD portion of the game, but if it's working then /shrug
Skyn3t released a modified asus bios that has worked wonders on many of our titans. Can be found in Occanrazor's sig, or in the original post of the thread.

Which Asus bios, you mean any Asus mobos? I still have just 1 Titan, was planning in the past to add more, but i will delay that for later if needed, but hope that modified asus bios can make a difference as you said [wonders], not sure like what wonders if you can clarify, please?

Will check out where to get it here, thanks
   
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Which Asus bios, you mean any Asus mobos? I still have just 1 Titan, was planning in the past to add more, but i will delay that for later if needed, but hope that modified asus bios can make a difference as you said [wonders], not sure like what wonders if you can clarify, please?

Will check out where to get it here, thanks

It's a GPU bios. It will help some on air, but it's true potential is on water cooling. It will boost your GPU's base clock to 1006mhz & tweak with the memory timings a bit. It will also unlock voltage to 1.212V which allows for more overclocking head room.
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Hoping my GPU slot still works, took the 3 cards out to swap out the lights and STILL received the wrong batch= I can't trust a label... Gonna test tonight when I get home, anyone ever seen anything like this before? Its the 3rd GPU slot ( x16) They've either popped out since or have bent back in.. I can't honestly tell at this point and I have the cards back in.

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It's a GPU bios. It will help some on air, but it's true potential is on water cooling. It will boost your GPU's base clock to 1006mhz & tweak with the memory timings a bit. It will also unlock voltage to 1.212V which allows for more overclocking head room.

I see, this is a good news then, hope my machine can handle it god enough.
   
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you can force d3doverride. You download the standalone, then open up rivatuner, go to the d3doverride tab, set detection level to high, & coordinate space to framebuffer. Doing this has resolved pretty much all stuttering issues... You have to remember though that most of these MMO's are CPU bound through & through.

There seems to be allot of misinformation about d3doverride floating around these days. The Triple buffering in Nvidia control panel is only meant for OpenGL, but triple buffering is not openGL only. You can force it in said games using d3doverride. It's no coincidence that my stuttering issues have magically vanished since using the tool. I'm not actually sure the rivatuner part is necessary, as that mostly controls the OSD portion of the game, but if it's working then /shrug
Skyn3t released a modified asus bios that has worked wonders on many of our titans. Can be found in Occanrazor's sig, or in the original post of the thread.

Ah that's what I must have read- nvidias triple buffering was OpenGL. I had hopes it would help and am now on my way to give it a try! You wouldn't happen to know of a d3doverrider standalone without rivatuner would you? Their was one floating around but the DL link I found had been pulled down by the host for some reason.

As far as mmos being CPU bound, I am well aware having been about all I played for the last 15 years tongue.gif (made me miss many a good game lol)

Granted I have a 4770k @ 4.8 this was one of the first things I looked into. All checks out though. Highest load on the highest core was about. 60%. Ironically this was the same load I was getting from my cards. When not affected by the micro stutter my framerate is awesome as is which gives me great hope for future drivers as well as the dx11 client. As luck would have it nvidia does seem to know about the issue as it is posted under bugs waiting on a fix.

Last driver version I got no SLI at all in surround on windows 8.1. Fortunately after raising a stink they were able to reproduce it and it was fixed with 332.21. Now I get 90-100fps on maximum @ 4680x2560 with a frame time of 16ms or so. Only issue is when the stuttering/slowdown strikes I get about 30fps and a frame time of 60ms or so. (This also happens at login screen as well as during loading screens)

Here's to hoping with the framebuffer tweak! If it works it makes one wonder why it isn't an option in NVCP!

Now onto this asus bios, what makes it any different than the skynet1006? I was actually considering trying the engi bios as it seems like during loading screens my clocks drop which indicates changing states for some reason. (Doesn't happen when SLI is disabled) the engi bios has less p states so I figured it might help.

Either way, depending on what I hear back, this asus bios may be the way to go! (Even though I have severe OCD and the thought of changing my cards to asus makes me /face palm repeatedly!)

Thanks for all the info! You were a great help thus far! +rep for u!
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fwiw i found d3doverrider via torrent. and the bios you were referring to IS the skynet v2 i assume? So you can nix those portions of my post tongue.gif

Curious about this engineering bios though. I am getting awful clocks requiring high voltages from my cards. Shame of it is i have 3 cards w/ great asic and 1 card w/ a pooper asic which is holding the other 3 back. Still a raunchy titan should be able to do 1202 stable w/ much less than 1.275 amirite? I am on air but my temps up to that point are reasonable w/ fans on perpetual 100% in a room kept cool (until i start gamiing on 4 overclocked titans lol. im gonna die in summer)

in all seriousness, I dont want to be running anything over like 1.25 on air as im going to need to keep these awhlie (will be getting water via taxtime but man do i NOT look forward to putting a block on 4 cards and replumbing this entire thing ughgh) At 1.250 I cant seem to get much higher than 1163 across all cards stable. Pretty awful right?

Im sure its that one card but i digress. I noticed i start to get red speckles in Afterburner around 1.275/1202 (which i hope doesnt happen when I am cooling properly) and which (also doesnt make sense since the same temps w/ lower voltages and clocks dont create those artifacts so its certainly not temp related and if its running its not voltage related so im kinda at a loss) I thought it was vram oc causing it but ironically i get no artifacts from my vram overclock. I get about 3600mhz no issue and if i ttry 3700 its just a striaght crash. Ive always had hardlocks or blue screens (usually the former) via gpu clocks never artifacts but hey. Add it to the list of complications and variables to make troubleshooting that much harder and one more process to eliminate when using process of eilmiantion tongue.gif

yea my spelling was a hot mes this post, sorry! lol im on an awful laptop w/ sticky keys. (felt obligated to make it clear its due to pop!)
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Ah that's what I must have read- nvidias triple buffering was OpenGL. I had hopes it would help and am now on my way to give it a try! You wouldn't happen to know of a d3doverrider standalone without rivatuner would you? Their was one floating around but the DL link I found had been pulled down by the host for some reason.

As far as mmos being CPU bound, I am well aware having been about all I played for the last 15 years tongue.gif (made me miss many a good game lol)

Granted I have a 4770k @ 4.8 this was one of the first things I looked into. All checks out though. Highest load on the highest core was about. 60%. Ironically this was the same load I was getting from my cards. When not affected by the micro stutter my framerate is awesome as is which gives me great hope for future drivers as well as the dx11 client. As luck would have it nvidia does seem to know about the issue as it is posted under bugs waiting on a fix.

Last driver version I got no SLI at all in surround on windows 8.1. Fortunately after raising a stink they were able to reproduce it and it was fixed with 332.21. Now I get 90-100fps on maximum @ 4680x2560 with a frame time of 16ms or so. Only issue is when the stuttering/slowdown strikes I get about 30fps and a frame time of 60ms or so. (This also happens at login screen as well as during loading screens)

Here's to hoping with the framebuffer tweak! If it works it makes one wonder why it isn't an option in NVCP!

Now onto this asus bios, what makes it any different than the skynet1006? I was actually considering trying the engi bios as it seems like during loading screens my clocks drop which indicates changing states for some reason. (Doesn't happen when SLI is disabled) the engi bios has less p states so I figured it might help.

Either way, depending on what I hear back, this asus bios may be the way to go! (Even though I have severe OCD and the thought of changing my cards to asus makes me /face palm repeatedly!)

Thanks for all the info! You were a great help thus far! +rep for u!

Skyn3t rev2 10006 is the modded Asus bios. I know people say d3doverride is bundled with rivatuner, but I don't actually see how to turn it on. I see that rivatuner has support for it, but that's about it.

http://kickass.to/d3doverrider-dx11-rar-t8230844.html#

download it from here, as torrent. extract, run, then go down to your "show hidden icons" click show, then it will pop up in a riva-tuner window.
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hey there guys

long story short I got a refund for my bricked Titan (also the square 33 thing next to mem VRMs) and now I am on the edge of buying a new card for gaming. I want to max out all games on my 1080p screen and that is with 4x / 8x AA on.

My RIG is:

Intel i7 4770k
Noctua NH-U12S
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ASUS BD-RW
FD Define R4

and now for the GPU options:

At this moment I am looking on these options:

EVGA 780ti KPE:

http://eu.evga.com/articles/00813/

Gigabyte 780ti GHZ Edition:

http://www.gigabyte.cz/products/page/vga/gv-n78tghz-3gd/

or go with team red this time:

Sapphire 290x TRI X

http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1&gid=3&sgid=1227&pid=2090&psn=&lid=1&leg=0

or one more time go:

GTX TItan

bottom line I want some beastly GPU with some headroom for overclocking and that it will be enough for 2-3 years for my res.

What would you guys pick ? Or if you have any other advices / products, please post them.

THank you very much

PS: I will be mostly on air / water cooling.
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Ah that's what I must have read- nvidias triple buffering was OpenGL. I had hopes it would help and am now on my way to give it a try! You wouldn't happen to know of a d3doverrider standalone without rivatuner would you? Their was one floating around but the DL link I found had been pulled down by the host for some reason.

As far as mmos being CPU bound, I am well aware having been about all I played for the last 15 years tongue.gif (made me miss many a good game lol)

Granted I have a 4770k @ 4.8 this was one of the first things I looked into. All checks out though. Highest load on the highest core was about. 60%. Ironically this was the same load I was getting from my cards. When not affected by the micro stutter my framerate is awesome as is which gives me great hope for future drivers as well as the dx11 client. As luck would have it nvidia does seem to know about the issue as it is posted under bugs waiting on a fix.

Last driver version I got no SLI at all in surround on windows 8.1. Fortunately after raising a stink they were able to reproduce it and it was fixed with 332.21. Now I get 90-100fps on maximum @ 4680x2560 with a frame time of 16ms or so. Only issue is when the stuttering/slowdown strikes I get about 30fps and a frame time of 60ms or so. (This also happens at login screen as well as during loading screens)

Here's to hoping with the framebuffer tweak! If it works it makes one wonder why it isn't an option in NVCP!

Now onto this asus bios, what makes it any different than the skynet1006? I was actually considering trying the engi bios as it seems like during loading screens my clocks drop which indicates changing states for some reason. (Doesn't happen when SLI is disabled) the engi bios has less p states so I figured it might help.

Either way, depending on what I hear back, this asus bios may be the way to go! (Even though I have severe OCD and the thought of changing my cards to asus makes me /face palm repeatedly!)

Thanks for all the info! You were a great help thus far! +rep for u!

Huzzah! I don't want to jump the gun, but it seems to be working... I say that cautiously as I heard no beep and It wasn't working when I had Vsync on (not sure if having it on in NVCP has anything to do w it but with Vsync off in d3d and triple buffer on, I've been locked at 60fps ever since smile.gif

I'm so hopeful but the pessimist in me is just waiting to turn a corner and be blasted with a monster slowdown. If it doesn't come to pass, 2 things will end up happening. I will be vigorously humping your leg, and I will be making contact (again) with nvidia and square w/ the findings + my *** face.

Pray for me , bbs! So far so good but I haven't left town! (Btw what and where is this beep)

/proclaims love for skuppies
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Skuppies, get out the waders!! Im comin over!! YOUR A GOD!!!! ITS FIXED!! LOL it has NEVER gone this long withoutr being retarded.

Bai Bai micro stutter!!

Oh, and btw. I have spoke with NVidia dozens of times about this. I have posted on likely half the tech forums in existence as well as 3/4 of the ffxiv forums. I have even been on reddit. Not ONE PERSON has suggested triple buffering and im stupefied it is/was as important as it is to performance and it simply cannot be enabled with any of NVidia's tools. Why is this not enabled by default? Is their a negative tradeoff im unaware of?

I am disgusted I have to run what amounts to a hack for 4 titans to get a consistent framerate but at this point im so stoked im over it for a minute tongue.gif When I get done playing with my new smooth framerate ill bring it to their attention, till then you have a tremendous thank you!! Their are half a dozen threads which are guaranteed to be the same issue, and another dozen that are likely the same thing. I'll be sure to spread this around far and wide!

Btw, what is it doing if it's not triple buffering? Double buffering? O.o
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