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Really? What actually does it mean then? Curious now

* "ASIC score is more an indication for nvidia and amd and for us only a measure of leakage in our chips thanks to W1zzard from TechPowerup, its good to know the ASIC if youre going to run SLI because it want to have closely similar ASIC score on your cards because they will have similar voltages and you can clock/volt them together without having to go separate settings if you get big difference ASIC ( i.e: 60% - 80%)
@TSMC for nvidia and FAB1 for AMD, as the chips are removed from the waffer, tested and fused with the voltage is reflected on the leakage of every chip

Originally Posted by Dave Baumann Product manager AMD
"Actually, it does the opposite! We scale the voltage based on leakage, so the higher leakage parts use lower voltage and the lower leakage parts use a higher voltage - what this is does narrow the entire TDP range of the product. Everything is qualified at worst case anyway; all the TDP calcs and the fan settings are completed on the worst case for the product range"

A high leakage card operates at lower voltage to balance the otherwise higher power draw and temps. It will also overclock higher than what a low leakage card would. The problem is though, cards usually have a limit of voltage increase, i.e. say +150mV , which means AB could overvolt a 1.15V card to 1.3V, but a 1.1V card would crash above 1.25V.

A high leakage card is what you want if you do extreme OC, and you can keep the card cool (H20,LN2 etc.). Your mileage will vary of course, not all low VID cards are good OC cards, and not all high VID cards OC bad. It's a part of product binning, they try to fit in as many chips as possible to a similar ASIC spec.

From "the man" W1zzard - Techpowerup himself:

it's from the gpu silicon, and it's used to calculate the gpu voltage.

"bad" gpus get a higher voltage so they make the default clock. "good" gpus can do it with lower voltage

as you've seen in this thread, the scale for nvidia isnt perfect yet, so i'll apply some fixes once I have more data that suggests the typical ranges of gpu leakages


* You are online with me on skype, you can ask me directly! tongue.gif


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So here are the results.

I can get to +150 and +200 but the temps go to high shutting down the card.

1So I moved GPU2(bottom card) and swapped them with the top since it was always a bit hotter.

Changed a little not much
2 Moved bottom card to the bottom.
Top card on Overclock only hit around 60-70C
Bottom card hit 90C Why? It's the bottom of the case and I need to dremel some metal out for it to be able to let out the air.

3. Seems the most I will see is +100Mhz on the card. This is better than what I had before at 1050... So now I am at 1097 / 1100.

This is the card before the bios overclock


Ths is the card on 3 way SLI 1 card SC notice the 1137MHZ no problem DEF. should have kept that card :-() Also this is at +100
The irony is the SC card I sold out back in Sept had higher marks lol Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

This is the card with 2 @ +100

This is the card now with an OC Thief 1097 temps hit 85 (Click to show)

Batman 1097 (Click to show)


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Stupid quesitons but though thought I would ask anyway

1. I am thinking to get Titan Black x3 going from Titan what do you guys think?

2. I am looking to get a new PSU I was going to wait for the Corsair 1500W but thinking to just go ahead with the 1200W. Any suggestions
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Stupid quesitons but though thought I would ask anyway

1. I am thinking to get Titan Black x3 going from Titan what do you guys think?

2. I am looking to get a new PSU I was going to wait for the Corsair 1500W but thinking to just go ahead with the 1200W. Any suggestions

What is your Titan hitting temperature wise right now?
Whats the Asic
--- go to GPU Z righg click top left and click ASIC score report back also tell us what your temp / clocks on your titan are.
Are you on 3 reg titans 3 SC titans or just 1 titan/sc? let us know
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Titan to Titan Black is a side-grade at best due to the Blacks overvolting limitations.
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Stupid quesitons but though thought I would ask anyway

1. I am thinking to get Titan Black x3 going from Titan what do you guys think?

2. I am looking to get a new PSU I was going to wait for the Corsair 1500W but thinking to just go ahead with the 1200W. Any suggestions

What is your Titan hitting temperature wise right now?
Whats the Asic
--- go to GPU Z righg click top left and click ASIC score report back also tell us what your temp / clocks on your titan are.
Are you on 3 reg titans 3 SC titans or just 1 titan/sc? let us know

Right now my titans dont get over 45C when gaming with a mild OC on the GPUs and the CPU.

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Read what I wrote,

What's your asic and what is your best overclock speeds and volts?
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My experience with GK110 ASIC Values...

-MSI GTX780 - ASIC 65.3% - Stock bios (1.187v) 1176 MHz Core - Custom Bios (1.212v) 1202 MHz Core - Max OC 1372 MHz Core @ 1.45v - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1172933

-Zotac GTX780 - ASIC 80.2% - Stock bios (1.200v) 1215 MHz Core - Custom Bios (1.212v) 1241 MHz Core - Max OC Haven't pushed yet

-Gigabyte GTX Titan 1 - ASIC 73.3% - Stock bios (1.187v) 1202 MHz Core - Custom bios: Haven't pushed yet.

-Gigabyte GTX Titan 2 - ASIC 69.5% - Stock bios (1.187v) 1202 MHz Core - Custom bios: Haven't pushed yet.

----
Once my rigs are up and fully running, I will first push the Zotac, hoping it will beat my old MSI score.

The Zotac and both Titans are all waiting for waterblocks to be fitted and volts to be maxed.

Titan 1 and 2 are two serial numbers apart - if that means anything - who knows? Their ASICS are similar and they OC'd more or less the same out of the box.

I think it's dangerous to automatically assume you will OC higher or lower based on ASIC alone.

It is however a good indicator. I was bummed about my initial OC on my MSI GTX 780, but once it was flashed with Sky's bios and Zawarudo's tool was used, I was pleasantly surprised.

Focus less on the ASIC, and just push your cards as much as you can thumb.gif
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I don't see the point going from GTX TITAN to GTX TITAN Black.

 
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I don't see the point going from GTX TITAN to GTX TITAN Black.

Becuase people can that's the reason and some people just want to smile.gif

But in performance no smile.gif
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