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I"m going to post about this relentlessly at the nvidia driver forum until ManuelG at least acknowledges it. The new drivers (314.09 and 314.14) have some very new, very strange behavior in regards to throttling and downclocking, it remains a complete mystery to me. Don't get me wrong: the titan is a beast of a card but the knowledge that you aren't getting 100% out of it at all times? That would be annoying. Anyway, thus far, manuel has ignored all the posts pertaining to it, and several of us have mentioned it. Their forum is here -- > https://forums.geforce.com/

I'm nearly certain this is a driver issue causing the weird power throttling situations. I also completely hate the fact that 70% manual fan instantly causes my cards to throttle down by over 300mhz. The hell is that crap? At least I can get great performance by disabling manual fan, but we shouldn't be required to do this whether we own a Titan or older card.
Edited by xoleras - 3/6/13 at 6:54am
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

Makes me very curious to see what happens when I remove the fans altogether... biggrin.gif

This is what I am waiting to see.... I figure with a waterblock, the Titan will perform phenomenal
 
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I am selling my Zotac 670 4Gb tomorrow and will hopefully get the Titan in 2 weeks here in Turkey

 

1 qestion though.

 

is the latest 314.14 beta drivers that I installed for my 670 is also good for the Titan?

 

Do I have to do a complete re install of the PC?

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just uninstall reinstall drivers.
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I"m going to post about this relentlessly at the nvidia driver forum until ManuelG at least acknowledges it. The new drivers (314.09 and 314.14) have some very new, very strange behavior in regards to throttling and downclocking, it remains a complete mystery to me. Don't get me wrong: the titan is a beast of a card but the knowledge that you aren't getting 100% out of it at all times? That would be annoying. Anyway, thus far, manuel has ignored all the posts pertaining to it, and several of us have mentioned it. Their forum is here -- > https://forums.geforce.com/

I'm nearly certain this is a driver issue causing the weird power throttling situations. I also completely hate the fact that 70% manual fan instantly causes my cards to throttle down by over 300mhz. The hell is that crap? At least I can get great performance by disabling manual fan, but we shouldn't be required to do this whether we own a Titan or older card.

This happens to all cards now, not just Titan? Did you try drivers for Titan on your Lightnings, or are these actual drivers for the 600-series that now throttle those cards as well?
Edited by dph314 - 3/6/13 at 7:16am
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Apparently 314.14 does this to 680's as well from what Xoleras has said.
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Apparently 314.14 does this to 680's as well from what Xoleras has said.

Jesus. Nvidia is really running with this crap. Pretty sad having such high-end cards like Titan and 680s so locked down. I don't know if I can switch to AMD cards at the moment, but if they end up making a decent improvement in frame latencies, then I'd seriously consider making the switch.
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I"m going to post about this relentlessly at the nvidia driver forum until ManuelG at least acknowledges it. The new drivers (314.09 and 314.14) have some very new, very strange behavior in regards to throttling and downclocking, it remains a complete mystery to me. Don't get me wrong: the titan is a beast of a card but the knowledge that you aren't getting 100% out of it at all times? That would be annoying. Anyway, thus far, manuel has ignored all the posts pertaining to it, and several of us have mentioned it. Their forum is here -- > https://forums.geforce.com/

I'm nearly certain this is a driver issue causing the weird power throttling situations. I also completely hate the fact that 70% manual fan instantly causes my cards to throttle down by over 300mhz. The hell is that crap? At least I can get great performance by disabling manual fan, but I shouldn't be required to do this.

Thanks for reminding me, I haven't annoyed them yet.
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Jesus. Nvidia is really running with this crap. Pretty sad having such high-end cards like Titan and 680s so locked down. I don't know if I can switch to AMD cards at the moment, but if they end up making a decent improvement in frame latencies, then I'd seriously consider making the switch.

The annoying part about this is its still better than AMD single GPU offerings, but I just can't play with it.
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OH YESSSSSS.



PS ordering stuff from Slovenia suckkkkkkkkkkks.

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This happens to all cards now, not just Titan? Did you try drivers for Titan on your Lightnings, or are these actual drivers for the 600-series that now throttle those cards as well?

So far with the 600 series, the new driver has the manual fan downclocking present in 314.14 and 314.09 frown.gif, but it doesn't apply the new GPU boost 2.0 stuff to the 600 series. So far from what I can tell, it's a new boost 1.0 algorithm that includes fanspeed in the TDP calculation - and when you use a high manual fan your card downclocks substantially.


So basically when I want to do an insane 3dmark run with manual fan, I can't. I have to let the card cook, it's very annoying. Right now the MSI lightning LN2 BIOS locks out all of the other throttle stuff, so I do have that on my side....but 70% manual fan overrides everything and drops my clocks to 1020mhz. Really, really stupid "feature" of this new driver.mad.gif
Edited by xoleras - 3/6/13 at 7:51am
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