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Whats wrong with locking the voltage to 1.212? That's ideal IMO. Though I think i'd rather have it be forced to 1.2 because 1.212 requires quite a bit more fan.

Play less intense games @ a voltage you do not require is not ideal my friend
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Seems to have completely fixed my throttling... Infact I seem to be able to get about 1250MHz steady when before I could only get about 1071 after throttling.

Is 115% TDP really safe to run though? It seems to have taken my 85-90% TDP in Valley, to 95% TDP which is enough to get rid of throttling. I wonder about the long term affects on the card though. Why were they limited in the first place?

That's good Bro. Have you tried scaling down the power limit to say 108? If so what speed did you get. I'm putting my blocks on after I leave work..... Thinking of flashing same bios...
 
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Is this bios working for you guys you think because it's taking all the middle voltage/speed steps out and thereby only allowing max boost or min 2D clocks? To me seems like this is what's happening, which is good on one hand, but sounds like a work around for a problem with the card/bios/drivers.

I did some testing of my own with stock bios - when the cards are pulling around 60% TDP, I can make them run up to the max temp setting without throttling, and when I increase that temp threshold it wont throttle until it reaches the new higher set point. However as soon as TDP increases somewhere beyond ~60% but below ~90% (not sure at what point the behaviour changes as we cant ramp it up bit by bit) then no setting the temp/TDP threshold higher does anything at all it throttles no matter what.
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Yea 115% TDP is definitely a no go! Very brief FC3 session. Fan nearly at it's max. I wish these BIOS had forced voltage of 1.2v. It seems all voltage control does on these BIOS is affect your maximum boost. Might just be best to keep it at +0 and use offset.

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And Here's 108% TDP. Throttling starts to happen (but it's not nearly as bad as my stock BIOS). Renairy is right though. 1.212v is too much on these stock coolers for normal gaming. I see 85C in everything I play, and the GPU is getting pretty loud.

Naennon, can you please make a 1.2v and 1.175v version of these BIOS for people that don't want their card that hot/loud?


Edited by Murlocke - 3/12/13 at 5:48am
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Boost and clocks in general are tied to voltages in the voltage vs clocks table that's how kepler works, same with the 600 series.
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Boost and clocks in general are tied to voltages in the voltage vs clocks table that's how kepler works, same with the 600 series.

Well I ended up going back to stock. I really hope he makes a 1.175v and 1.2v version of those BIOS. I feel like 115% TDP with a lower voltage would allow me to get a steady 1150-1175 core without seeing 80C+. Much better than this 1071 (after throttling) i'm getting on these stock BIOS.
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Well I ended up going back to stock. I really hope he makes a 1.175v and 1.2v version of those BIOS. I feel like 115% TDP with a lower voltage would allow me to get a steady 1150-1175 core without seeing 80C+. Much better than this 1071 (after throttling) i'm getting on these stock BIOS.

Interestingly enough..

On this bios, you can still "increase" voltage on it somehow.

Basically, if I were to set PrecisionX to +0volts, the card will boost to 1176mhz and stay there pegged. PrecisionX will still read the 1.2volts pegged as well.

If I were to go in and do +38 on the voltage, the card boosts up to 1215 stable and stays there - with PrecisionX once again reading 1.2volts.

Any idea why this happens? Are we actually giving the cards more voltage, but just not being read by Precision?
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Interestingly enough..

On this bios, you can still "increase" voltage on it somehow.

Basically, if I were to set PrecisionX to +0volts, the card will boost to 1176mhz and stay there pegged. PrecisionX will still read the 1.2volts pegged as well.

If I were to go in and do +38 on the voltage, the card boosts up to 1215 stable and stays there - with PrecisionX once again reading 1.2volts.

Any idea why this happens? Are we actually giving the cards more voltage, but just not being read by Precision?

Because of what CryptiK said above. I don't believe there's any difference between increasing core offset and upping your volts on those BIOS. I'd probably just leave it at +0 and use core offset... However I personally wouldn't use those BIOS unless your on water, feel like running 85% Fan to keep it below 80C, or just looking to break some personal benchmark records.

Also when you say 1.2v, do you mean 1.212v? Is there a 1.2v BIOS that fixes throttling that I don't know about? I think 1.175v forced would almost be ideal, and still allow people to get to 1150+ core while keeping the card cool/quiet for 24/7 usage and gaming. I suspect even a steady 1.2v might get a tad hot with 110-115% TDP.
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Play less intense games @ a voltage you do not require is not ideal my friend

You are certainly correct, this isn't ideal. But careful the garbage you accept out of NVidia's spin department. This was not an "issue" this was a design, it was just met with more resistance than they expected so they are trying to recover from it. You will still likely need these modded bios because they won't make the cards work as they should. Some results here are already approaching 690 territory.
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