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What changed in this Bios?

2-3 fps more in valley lol. smile.gif I think we reached the end of how far we can mod those BIOS for now.

So this latest BIOS you tried got you 2-3 more frames in Valley? What did it bring your clocks up from/to?

Yeah we may be hitting the wall soon, as far as how high the voltage/power limit can go with a modded BIOS, but I don't think many people are going to complain now (I mean...~1200mhz on air. That's almost a 40% OC over the stock Boost). Same thing happened with the 680 Lightning. As soon as people got the card and flashed to the unlocked BIOS, they were content and mostly forgot about how locked down the card was when it got to them. Since this seems to be working well, I wouldn't be surprised if Nvidia didn't even post a response at all to the throttling. People content with the card as-is will continue being content, and those 'in-the-know' will just flash their cards and be happy that way. Everyone is more or less satisfied one way or the other and Nvidia just drops it altogether. I would like to see what kind of answer they come up with though, or at least an explanation. But I doubt they will at all at this point.



Just a question also, thought of it after mentioning the 680 Lightning...how is it that the Titan Lightning rumor was believed by so many, but MSI didn't even get any to begin with? How would MSI bin for Lightning version chips when they never got any in the first place? Did they not get any because of the whole 680 Lightning voltage-control thing (in the beginning)?
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I still see ~70 fps sometimes even with 3x Titans and a 3930k @ 4.5 GHz at 1080p/120hz. Mind you - it's around 190 fps most of the time, but it does dip when the action is hot on the screen. None of that matters, however, to the fluidity I see and feel on the screen...even with all those prior card setups i now finally have perfection, in my mind. smile.gif

You may see an fps dip with moving from SLI 670s to a Titan, but you will gain in a more appreciable measure - frame times. Posted by Levesque last page or so: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/60166-nvidia-gtx-titan-vs-sli-crossfire.html.

Yeah I just read thru this review. Honestly I tried swapping off my SLI and just watching one 670.. and it was.. I SUPPOSE.. MAYBE.. slightly smoother.. but it was pretty much inperceptible. On BF3 especially, I just really didn't feel a difference.. although my FPS were hitting the 70s at times.

Do you play with HT off? You have a 3930k if I remember correctly at like 4.7ghz..

I had a horrid time with my SLI 670's on a 3570k where my FPS were dipping into the 80s a lot, so I upgraded to a 3770k and OC'd it to 4.6, and voila.. my minimum framerates never ever went below 112. I think most of us know that BF3 (and newer games) can be very heavily CPU bound and overclocking/more threads in the CPU really help with the minimum framerates on a MP game.
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I dont like multi monitor setups and i hate TN panels so i have to wait for 4K or stay with 30" 1600P and bare with this low usage tongue.gif

I don't play FC3 but I've considered picking it up.

As for panels 120hz isn't incentive enough for me to ever go TN. I've played on a U3011 for a few years now. 30" 2560x1600 will be what's on my desk until 4k prices come down to ~2500$ at least.

I want a u3014 but dell won't give it to me yet, those jerks.
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Yea, but if you think about it, the titan will still beat out the 8970 and the 780. It will likely still be a better decision then a 790, as the 790 will *likely* have the scaling issues and come in somewhere very close to 3x titan when you 2x 790. It is a pretty special card that can bridge 2 generations and still be the card on top...

Hardware canucks did themselves a bit of a disservice not testing titan sli with the other sli pairs they did. But I assume the kepler/kepler titan sli situation is very close to the kepler/kepler 680 sli situation which is as they said in their review: "TITAN is able to remain head and shoulders over the GTX 680 SLI and GTX 670 SLI setups. It exhibits excellent all-round performance in these tests, without any of SLI’s drama" I'm sure you're getting the same or very similar "SLI drama" with titans.
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I don't play FC3 but I've considered picking it up.

As for panels 120hz isn't incentive enough for me to ever go TN. I've played on a U3011 for a few years now. 30" 2560x1600 will be what's on my desk until 4k prices come down to ~2500$ at least.

I want a u3014 but dell won't give it to me yet, those jerks.

To each their own for sure, I have a 1080p TN 120hz and I could never game at 60hz.. but I'm competitive. I sure still have my eye on an OverLord Tempest for 120hz IPS but.. I just can't fathom spending on a new monitor when I just got this one a year ago.

120hz changes how games play.. but it's mostly just for FPS games like BF3. 60FPS is unplayable.
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Yea, but if you think about it, the titan will still beat out the 8970 and the 780. It will likely still be a better decision then a 790, as the 790 will *likely* have the scaling issues and come in somewhere very close to 3x titan when you 2x 790. It is a pretty special card that can bridge 2 generations and still be the card on top...

While I'd like to believe my Titan will be king forever your statement is pure speculation.
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Yeah I just read thru this review. Honestly I tried swapping off my SLI and just watching one 670.. and it was.. I SUPPOSE.. MAYBE.. slightly smoother.. but it was pretty much inperceptible. On BF3 especially, I just really didn't feel a difference.. although my FPS were hitting the 70s at times.

Do you play with HT off? You have a 3930k if I remember correctly at like 4.7ghz..

I had a horrid time with my SLI 670's on a 3570k where my FPS were dipping into the 80s a lot, so I upgraded to a 3770k and OC'd it to 4.6, and voila.. my minimum framerates never ever went below 112. I think most of us know that BF3 (and newer games) can be very heavily CPU bound and overclocking/more threads in the CPU really help with the minimum framerates on a MP game.

I do not turn off HT. I experimented with it last year with my 3960x/4-way 680 setup and it didn't change anything I could perceive. Is the general consensus to turn off HT? Perhaps it makes sense with a 6-core processor so more "real" cores are used and not virtual ones...
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To each their own for sure, I have a 1080p TN 120hz and I could never game at 60hz.. but I'm competitive. I sure still have my eye on an OverLord Tempest for 120hz IPS but.. I just can't fathom spending on a new monitor when I just got this one a year ago.

120hz changes how games play.. but it's mostly just for FPS games like BF3. 60FPS is unplayable.

The problem with the tempest is its availability not its price, who cares about buying a 500$ monitor when you just bought 1k$ gpu(s?). biggrin.gif

I wish someone I knew had the tempest so I could use it for a few hours and see if the 60-120hz is a big enough difference for me to lose a few inches of screen size.
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To each their own for sure, I have a 1080p TN 120hz and I could never game at 60hz.. but I'm competitive. I sure still have my eye on an OverLord Tempest for 120hz IPS but.. I just can't fathom spending on a new monitor when I just got this one a year ago.

120hz changes how games play.. but it's mostly just for FPS games like BF3. 60FPS is unplayable.

This. I have a Dell U3011 for everyday use, but I prefer to game on 120 hz monitors, and I like some games in 3D, which of course is impossible on an IPS panel, at least for now.
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While I'd like to believe my Titan will be king forever your statement is pure speculation.

Yes and no? Call it deductive speculation?

Nvidia won't trump the Titan with the maxwell unless a miracle happens. At best it will slightly beat the Titan, but stock will have less VRAM. You're talking about a ~42% generation increase to the 780 which is around what should be expected. This will still result in Titan being viable. Similar numbers work on the amd side too.

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Hardware canucks did themselves a bit of a disservice not testing titan sli with the other sli pairs they did. But I assume the kepler/kepler titan sli situation is very close to the kepler/kepler 680 sli situation which is as they said in their review: "TITAN is able to remain head and shoulders over the GTX 680 SLI and GTX 670 SLI setups. It exhibits excellent all-round performance in these tests, without any of SLI’s drama" I'm sure you're getting the same or very similar "SLI drama" with titans.

Yep, as always sli will introduce those issues.. But this is likely the first generation bridging card since the 8800 ultra. Pretty sweet if you ask me.
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