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Decent sensor (for 3k dpi and below) + many buttons (no NagaE/g600 solution!) + onboard memory (gamer and Linux user)

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1. What's your grip style?
Claw and sometimse Fingertip. But it isnt something which is rooted in me.

2. What's your sensitivity?
Depends. I prefer lows in fps but in other games I use med. In everyday use im using high (2500dpi)

3. What's your maximum budget?
Here in Poland we have different prices so lets say maximum is 80$

4. Do you want additional buttons?
Hell yes, with mapping feature!!! Two on the left side and minimum two additional ... somewhere. This is most important factor to me!

5. What games do you play?
Recently i dont, but played a lot WoW, Lineage2, many cRPGs , h'n's (Torchlight, Diablo). Love single player FPS (Bioshock, STALKER, Far Cry, Crysis). If i find more time then i will return to gaming. No RTS or online FPS games.

6. Do you mind about prediction?
Dont care about.

7. Other relevant information:
Macro programing and onboard memory are crucial for me.

Ive been using a4tech 738k (Avago 3080) for 3yrs with qck mini pad. I need many buttons with macro feature (OSCAR software is awesome!) with onboard memory (most of the time im using linux os). No nagaE/g600 solution because its ridiculous to have so many buttons under so unflexible finger the thumb is. You cant reach them all and there is high risck of missclikcs. Besides, muscle memory bleeds in such design. I need many buttons but in compromise with ergonomy. For me mouse buttons are for most often used skills/emergency ones/those which need aiming (grenades). The rest keys are on my Saitek PZ31A device, where i have enough of them.

At first i was data mining about Naga Hex and CM Storm Inferno. But synapse and philips dpi scalling threw me off. As well as from Mad Catz M.M.O mouse. Corsair M90 have issues as well, with buttons placemnt (too close, too many in one place). Steelseries WoW mice took my attention but some software problems, and complaints about build quality caused me be carefull about them. Finally the "Cataclysm-Gold" dirty politics drag me away from them for good. G300 would be pefect but unfortunately it doesnt have side buttons which i use most of the time (more often than 3x button and roller one). G500 was also on my list, but i met some complains about built quality (switches and loose optics). I almost had G700 in my shopping cart but i hold the horses on when Genius Gila showed on the horizon. Yes it looks like one of those transformer toys , but it seems it has everything i need (especially button placement looks promising to me). And it probably has A9800 sensor as i assume from its specification.

Please dont misunderstand that i completely dont care about sensor. If I would, then i would not post here and bother you. Im counting on some kind of compromise between number of keys and sensor quality. I was even taking into account models with less buttons like Thermaltake Tt eSports Black Element, Pearl LMX-5005 or Genius Deathtaker (all on Avago 9500) but i dont think their performance justify lack of keys comparing to other mouses mentioned above.

So... is there any solution for me? Does my all assumptions are correct?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.


PS. To all those macro haters - no i dont use some super-u83r-pr0 no-recoil, 3xfire functions or bot scripts. There are plenty of other fun stuff you can do with macros. So if you just want to unload your anger here or teach me how to play, please dont bother because i just ignore such posts.

PS2. Please, forgive me any language mistakes, i dont use english everyday biggrin.gif
Edited by doman18 - 2/22/13 at 4:10am
post #2 of 14
Hm, I'm only going to list the mice I know have a great sensor:

G400 has two side buttons + three buttons on top BUT it doesn't have onboard memory, so that is bad for you I guess.

Roccat Savu only has two sidebuttons, but good macro software and onboard memory.

As you are ok with laser: how about the Steelseries Sensei? Two buttons on each side, good software. I'm not sure about onboard, but I think it has.
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Thx a lot for reply. Only Sensei looks interesting and ill consider it. However a little downside is that it has 2 side buttons on the right, instead of having them near main buttons. It would be much more handy to me.
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Sensei not only has onboard memory, but you can 100% configure it via the mouse itself, without software. Pretty nice feature.
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Well this is advantage in some way because i use linux as my default os. When i want make some changes in my x738k i have to relog to windows again. However its very rare situation because i think i found my best setup for this mouse.

Anyone else ?
post #6 of 14
The only MMO mouse I would reccommend is the WoW Legendary Edition
http://steelseries.com/products/games/world-of-warcraft/world-of-warcraft-mmo-mouse-legendary-edition

Or it's cheaper golden version if you're in a budget. (I actually own this one and I don't play WoW)
http://steelseries.com/c/world-of-warcraft-mmo-mouse-gold-edition

They just differ in appearance, price and maybe weight (the Gold one may be lighter due to a less complicated led system)

Why ?
The Pixart Sensor performs just fine, it has some linear correction which doesn't bother me.
The Shape is just amazing, maybe the most comfortable mouse I've had the pleasure to lay my hand on
The weight quite low for a mouse with that number of buttons
The button placement is very intuitive and you can enjoy almost all of them (except that 11th small button on the right side).

I think it doesn't have onboard memory (that would be the downside)
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Go for the sensei.
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Well in fact at the beginning of my search's I was fully after SS Cataclysm. Button placement is just perfect and as it seems, it has onboard memory. But when i wrote "Steeseries cataclysm" in google, it showed many links with problems that people have with this mouse. This frightened me a little bit, so i started to search for another models. Thats why i just don know if i can trust steelseries. Other thing is, that Gold/Legendary politics is just seem very vague to me. If SS makes money with Gold version, then it means that Legendary is enormously overpriced. And this gives asumption that other SS models are not worth money that we pay for them as well.

@vss vintorez
I forgot to mention ealier, that I will not take into account recomendations with less than 10 words of argumentation.
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Originally Posted by doman18 View Post

Thx a lot for reply. Only Sensei looks interesting and ill consider it. However a little downside is that it has 2 side buttons on the right, instead of having them near main buttons. It would be much more handy to me.

To elaborate Ino's choice a bit, Savu got great macro which allows you assign one button to be "Shift+" and then use mouse button combos, e.g. Back Button + Left Click can give you a distinct function. This way, you have a few more assignable "buttons" at your disposal. After using it for a while myself, this combo thing is intuitive to use and the button placement of Savu is a plus for me.

Moreover, it also has onboard memory which saves all your settings including button assignment and macro on it.
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@ZareliZM
Well in fact at the beginning of my search's I was fully after SS Cataclysm. Button placement is just perfect and as it seems, it has onboard memory. But when i wrote "Steeseries cataclysm" in google, it showed many links with problems that people have with this mouse. This frightened me a little bit, so i started to search for another models. Thats why i just don know if i can trust steelseries. Other thing is, that Gold/Legendary politics is just seem very vague to me. If SS makes money with Gold version, then it means that Legendary is enormously overpriced. And this gives asumption that other SS models are not worth money that we pay for them as well.

@vss vintorez
I forgot to mention ealier, that I will not take into account recomendations with less than 10 words of argumentation.

Overpriced products is the epitome of the gaming peripheral industry, that's why so many new companies have appeared in the latest years...

If you don't trust Steelseries because of this, then you shouldn't trust Roccat, TTesports, Razer, Mionix, Feenix, etc, etc etc....
I've seen just a few with fairly decent prices such as CMstorm, Logitech, A4Tech and Genius.

My recomendation is to search for a cheap good buy (like the WoW Gold that costs a 60% of the Legendary and is the same) regardless of the company...
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