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consoles don't use APIs. they use direct hardware low-level codes that by passes any software layers for max perf.
Are you sure about that?
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In a console-specific version, DirectX was used as a basis for Microsoft's Xbox and Xbox 360 console API. The API was developed jointly between Microsoft and Nvidia, who developed the custom graphics hardware used by the original Xbox. The Xbox API is similar to DirectX version 8.1, but is non-updateable like other console technologies. The Xbox was code named DirectXbox, but this was shortened to Xbox for its commercial name.[9]

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uh those ~40% or so XP systems are mostly from poor public schools and cheap business who are too lazy and ignorant to upgrade; most of these have garbage intel graphics anyway, below min req. here's a more accurate stats related to pc gamers:
(from steam hardware survey)
Operating system usages:
as you can see, 84.51% are DirectX 10 or higher capable. almost every one of these are DirectX 11 capable (assuming most vista users got the platform update)

Graphics card usages:
An overwhelming 94.06% are capable of DirectX 10 or higher with over half being DirectX 11 capable.

I stand corrected about Windows XP, but:
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they are just lazy coders who can't learn the new ways.
How are they "lazy" and unwilling to "learn new ways" when they never said the game was DirectX 9 only. In fact, it takes more work to offer the game with optimization and options to run on a wider range of hardware. Here is the quote from the article:
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• Crystal care about TR fans being able to run on older systems, unlike many other games they still support Windows XP.

DirectX 10/11 features are likely optional; like in Arkham City and many other games.
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• Very high resolution textures with up to 16x the amount of data
• Detail Tessellation to enhance the detail on many surfaces in the game
• Higher quality shadows
• High quality bokeh depth of field with near-blur
• Tessellation algorithms used to smooth out geometry
• Improved cloth, SSAO, quality wetness effects, and post-filter effects.
• LOD quality is adjustable for better quality on higher-end machines.
But moreover, why would it even matter if the game is DirectX 9 only (like Skyrim, Witcher 2.etc)? If the game is fun, and runs good under DirectX 9, is it really so important that it isn't benchmark software? Not every PC game has to be Crysis or FarCry 3 graphically.
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But moreover, why would it even matter if the game is DirectX 9 only (like Skyrim, Witcher 2.etc)? If the game is fun, and runs good under DirectX 9, is it really so important that it isn't benchmark software? Not every PC game has to be Crysis or FarCry 3 graphically.
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Are you sure about that?

I stand corrected about Windows XP, but:
How are they "lazy" and unwilling to "learn new ways" when they never said the game was DirectX 9 only. In fact, it takes more work to offer the game with optimization and options to run on a wider range of hardware. Here is the quote from the article:
DirectX 10/11 features are likely optional; like in Arkham City and many other games.
But moreover, why would it even matter if the game is DirectX 9 only (like Skyrim, Witcher 2.etc)? If the game is fun, and runs good under DirectX 9, is it really so important that it isn't benchmark software? Not every PC game has to be Crysis or FarCry 3 graphically.

we spend thousands of dollars on computer hardware

we do not get the most out of our money if we don't see the DX11 high-texutres & eye candy.

If you want play game purely for great gameplay you could've just bought a console.
     
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we spend thousands of dollars on computer hardware

we do not get the most out of our money if we don't see the DX11 high-texutres & eye candy.

If you want play game purely for great gameplay you could've just bought a console.

I can understand that. With the new consoles coming out by the end of the year (at least ps4), and Microsoft finally dropping all support for Win XP in about 14 months, maybe we can FINALLY see games leaving dx9 behind for good. Didn't dx9 come out in 2002 or so?
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we spend thousands of dollars on computer hardware
Good for you!!!!

Lots of people don't. Deal with it.
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we do not get the most out of our money if we don't see the DX11 high-texutres & eye candy.

No one at any point said you weren't going to get any of those features. How about reading the article posted?
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If you want play game purely for great gameplay you could've just bought a console.
So basically, you buy a PC for graphics and a console "purely for great gameplay."

That's the argument you're really going to go with? lachen.gif
 
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we spend thousands of dollars on computer hardware

we do not get the most out of our money if we don't see the DX11 high-texutres & eye candy.

If you want play game purely for great gameplay you could've just bought a console.

Nothing against anyone who pours thousands into souping up their gaming rig, but understand that you are part of a niche market and not every game will be catered to you. Tons of PC gamers couldn't care less about whether their game is the best eye candy available. Look at the popularity of games like LoL, WoW, Minecraft, Diablo III, TF2, etc.
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Nothing against anyone who pours thousands into souping up their gaming rig, but understand that you are part of a niche market and not every game will be catered to you. Tons of PC gamers couldn't care less about whether their game is the best eye candy available. Look at the popularity of games like LoL, WoW, Minecraft, Diablo III, TF2, etc.

Building your own PC is kind of a niche market in and of it's self. Add to that the small number of people who really spend a ton of money on builds and buy TOTL stuff.

It's a niche market in a niche market, if you will.
 
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Building your own PC is kind of a niche market in and of it's self. Add to that the small number of people who really spend a ton of money on builds and buy TOTL stuff.

It's a niche market in a niche market, if you will.

And when it comes to multiplatform games, PC tends to be 10-20% of total sales, so a niche within a niche within a niche. We need to go derper!
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And when it comes to multiplatform games, PC tends to be 10-20% of total sales, so a niche within a niche within a niche. We need to go derper!
 
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Good for you!!!!

Lots of people don't. Deal with it.
No one at any point said you weren't going to get any of those features. How about reading the article posted?
So basically, you buy a PC for graphics and a console "purely for great gameplay."

That's the argument you're really going to go with? lachen.gif

lol..wasn't my intention for my post to sound elitist.

Yes nowadays I play PC games primarily for the eye candy. Yet my most hours logged on a game of this past year is CS:GO...far far ahead of even BF3 (something like 20x more time spend), something my 6 year comp can run decently. I know this game ships with DX11...I'm just referring to the person I quoted saying not every game has to be benchmark material...yet that's exactly something that I would like to see more of. BF3/FarCry 3/Crysis 3 and the like as long as they are decently optimized.

My point was if graphics is not a big part of your gaming preference then a console is a good option unless all you play is purely FPS/RTS (assuming you are still on XP/DX9...it's 10 year old tech after all which is what's holding the industry back from having a more mature DX11 market)
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