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Nice responses. Reason I asked about waiting was not because the Haswell chips have better graphics but because they draw less power. But then again, the fact i will not be doing games probably means I will not benefit much from the reduced power usage if I'm not playing games or doing other heavy stuff.

I was actually looking at something 14-15.6 inch so I can get word done it. I see that 15.6 inch laptops are about 2.2kg and the 14" are lighter as well as being cheaper so that might be the way to go.

Yogapad might be on the small size and a bit expensive for what it is?

I've had a look at the VivoBook and the reviews are excellent. What is the difference between a VivoBook and Zenbook Prime? The Zenbook seems to be more expensive (and there a lot of models which is confusing). What are they like in terms of keyboard (heard some can be annoying to type with) and also sound?

While looking at Asus, I came across the ASUS Transformer Book TX300. I don't think it's out just yet, but what do you guys think and when will it be out? The detachable tablet benefit means going for a smaller 13.3" screen.

Thanks.

Lenovo YogaPad is a mix between a regular laptop and a tablet. It has a nice specs, but I don't think you want to spend that much.

Asus zen book is light like apple macbook pro like elemin said. vivobook is nice however one downside is the battery life. For me, I would say get vivobook because it is nice for the price and their sexy design
     
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I have been doing quite a bit of looking around. Thanks for the pointers but need further help.

I have seen that the Zenbook ux32a which is the cheaper version of the ux31a, can be had for a bit more than that Vivobook. It's on special offer for £750 with an i7 processor. Difference seems to be a lower resolution screen a that it's a touch heavier than the more expensive version, and only 24GB SSD. Otherwise they are virtually identical. Does that look like a good deal and what other differences am I missing out on?

Yes the Lenovo Yoga is a £1000 and only the i7 is available in the UK. If I can get the Yoga from the US (when I visit), I can get the i5 version for what works out as £765 (in a horrible orange colour). But then I could pay a little more and get the X1 carbon for £831 ($1249) if I'm in the US! According to the reviews the X1 is the best laptop out there, beating anything Apple has (except in the display department (Retina)). I'm only there for a short period so not sure if it will even be possible to pick something up.

If I can't pcik anything up from the US, then it's probably choosing between the Vivobook or the Zenbook ux32a (ux31a seems too overpriced here).
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I have been doing quite a bit of looking around. Thanks for the pointers but need further help.

I have seen that the Zenbook ux32a which is the cheaper version of the ux31a, can be had for a bit more than that Vivobook. It's on special offer for £750 with an i7 processor. Difference seems to be a lower resolution screen a that it's a touch heavier than the more expensive version, and only 24GB SSD. Otherwise they are virtually identical. Does that look like a good deal and what other differences am I missing out on?

Yes the Lenovo Yoga is a £1000 and only the i7 is available in the UK. If I can get the Yoga from the US (when I visit), I can get the i5 version for what works out as £765 (in a horrible orange colour). But then I could pay a little more and get the X1 carbon for £831 ($1249) if I'm in the US! According to the reviews the X1 is the best laptop out there, beating anything Apple has (except in the display department (Retina)). I'm only there for a short period so not sure if it will even be possible to pick something up.

If I can't pcik anything up from the US, then it's probably choosing between the Vivobook or the Zenbook ux32a (ux31a seems too overpriced here).

It looks like a fine deal (the ux32). I still reccomend the Vivobook though as it is cheaper and has a touch screen. Go to a local computer store and use Windows 8 with a non touch screen laptop alongside a touchscreen laptop, the difference is enourmous. Also, the 24 GB SSD is more of a cache than an actual place to store things; usually in cases like these, the OS does not even recogize it and it acts like a hybrid drive.

I wouldnt bother with the Yoga. There is a better laptop called the Lenovo Twist that has better specs in every way over the Yoga and is much less expensive.

The X1 carbon is by ZERO means the best laptop out there. It has the best of NOTHING. I'm not saying it's a bad laptop; it is not, but anyone who says its the best laptop ever is completely wrong. It isnt the lightest, it isnt the most detailed (1600x900? Not the highest res), it isnt the most powerful, it isnt the longest lasting, it is NOT the best in any way whatsoever.
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regarding the X1 I read a few reviews such as this and some others which have really praised it. I like the 14 inch screen size and it's still 1.34kg . Better screens out there yes but it's better than the Vivobook screen and the UX32. It's meant to have a better keyboard than any other laptop. Very durable too.

I like the twist but the screen is on the small size for me. I would have got a 15 inch but they are too heavy.

There is also the older version of the UX31 on offer here for £800. It has the older generation of the i7 so would a new generation i5 be better? UX31E has a better screen (1600 x 900) than the UX32A. Which would you say is the better laptop as the ux31e can be had for £50 more.
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regarding the X1 I read a few reviews such as this and some others which have really praised it. I like the 14 inch screen size and it's still 1.34kg . Better screens out there yes but it's better than the Vivobook screen and the UX32. It's meant to have a better keyboard than any other laptop. Very durable too.

I like the twist but the screen is on the small size for me. I would have got a 15 inch but they are too heavy.

There is also the older version of the UX31 on offer here for £800. It has the older generation of the i7 so would a new generation i5 be better? UX31E has a better screen (1600 x 900) than the UX32A. Which would you say is the better laptop as the ux31e can be had for £50 more.

The X1 is a good laptop; I'm not trying to say it isnt. But "best"? No way. It simply is not. It has hundreds of flaws if it's trying to be "best".

15" is too heavy but 12" is too small? What size do you want?

The 750$ link you gave me had an i7-3517u, not an i5-3317u. In either case, the newer generation performs better, zero doubts.
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I can't find a 15" that is less than 2kg. 14" is ideal because of weight and size, 13.3" would be lowest limit in terms of size.

Sorry I meant the ux31e one which is on offer here. It has the i7-2677M. I was comparing this with the ux32a above. Which is the better deal from the two?
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I can't find a 15" that is less than 2kg. 14" is ideal because of weight and size, 13.3" would be lowest limit in terms of size.

Sorry I meant the ux31e one which is on offer here. It has the i7-2677M. I was comparing this with the ux32a above. Which is the better deal from the two?

You just linked the exact same laptop. The UX32 has a i7-3517u. It is better and cheaper.

If 14" is ideal, get the Vivobook S400.
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Sorry, forget I said anything about i5. It's the ASUS UX31E Notebook / 13.3” /Intel Core i7 2677M / 4GB RAM /128GB HDD or the UX32A i7-3517u. The latter has a better processor but the screen is not as good and it's a bit heavier too (1.45 vs 1.3kg). The ux31e comes with 128GB SSD and the ux32a with standard HDD. The advantage is only in the processor so does that alone make it the better laptop?

The s400 is quite a bit heavier at 1.8kg and is a bit thicker too (and does not have the same finish as the above two). I understand it has touch but considering it is a laptop (that does not convert into a tablet) would anyone use it?
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Sorry, forget I said anything about i5. It's the ASUS UX31E Notebook / 13.3” /Intel Core i7 2677M / 4GB RAM /128GB HDD or the UX32A i7-3517u. The latter has a better processor but the screen is not as good and it's a bit heavier too (1.45 vs 1.3kg). The ux31e comes with 128GB SSD and the ux32a with standard HDD. The advantage is only in the processor so does that alone make it the better laptop?

The s400 is quite a bit heavier at 1.8kg and is a bit thicker too (and does not have the same finish as the above two). I understand it has touch but considering it is a laptop (that does not convert into a tablet) would anyone use it?

The i7-3517u is far better than the i7-2677M, but you seem to really like the other i7-3677M and it's other features, so go ahead and get it. Also, there is no way in hell you're going to notice a difference of 0.15 kg. You just wont.

Also, you didnt do as I asked: Go to a computer store and demo Windows 8 with a touchscreen laptop alongside a non-touchscreen laptop. The difference is enourmous. You will use the touchscreen a lot. Windows 8 was designed with touchscreens in mind.
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I am more inclined to go with the the newer i7 but it's the SSD on the older one which is appealing. But then again I can add a good one for £85 later. I'm sure the 1366 x 768 won't be terrible? All else is same as far as I can see.

I have Windows 8 on my PC and I try to stay in desktop mode as much as I can. Not keen on the tiles. But, yes I can see how the tiles with touchscreen would be useful for tasks on the go so I will check them out in a store.
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