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All this frame talk... it's a bit like quantum mechanics, specifically the double slit test. The more you look at it, the more you change the actual results. Thus your intrusion to measure it influences the result. It's ironic.
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Good point TSM.
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This really does need to be bought up though. In reality average framerate is a pretty poor indication of actual gameplay experience. I like that people are finally looking for a "scientific" way of measuring smoothness.

This is something that AMD needs to address. If it weren't for the ability to cap framerates I would have sold my cards quite a while ago. A little more flexibility is never a bad thing. There are times where it would be nice to not be required to cap the framerate, like with a 120hz monitor.

It seems like all of these smoothness or microstutter comparisons come to the same conclusion. It would be nice if amd were to analyze what it is that Nvidia does and try to come up with some method of their own. I can say one thing for sure. Without a framerate cap games seem to run smoother on Nvidia hardware.
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http://www.pcper.com/image/view/20967?return=node%2F56621

looks like my plate after I go back and forth scraping the food residue of it.

But with every 2nd frame hardly being shown, that doesn't sound good
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All this frame talk... it's a bit like quantum mechanics, specifically the double slit test. The more you look at it, the more you change the actual results. Thus your intrusion to measure it influences the result. It's ironic.

god just admit AMD drivers have terrible frame timing and need to improved, why defend AMD so they don't feel the need to fix it?
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god just admit AMD drivers have terrible frame timing and need to improved, why defend AMD so they don't feel the need to fix it?

Yeah unplayable rolleyes.gif Because they have worse frame latency it doesnt mean that is terrible or unplayable. When you have only 2 companies to compete with each other one will have worse frame latenncy.It will be nice amd to fix it but most of the times you can only see it at graphs
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Exactly. I still don't see this as much of an issue. IMO just keep pumping out higher avg FPS and I'll be happy (want those benching numbers)... biggrin.gif
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Exactly. I still don't see this as much of an issue. IMO just keep pumping out higher avg FPS and I'll be happy (want those benching numbers)... biggrin.gif

Its a problem you will ever experience if you upgrade every generation getting fasted Dual GPUs. Once CFX and SLI drop below 60fps they stutter real bad.
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Exactly. I still don't see this as much of an issue. IMO just keep pumping out higher avg FPS and I'll be happy (want those benching numbers)... biggrin.gif

Its a problem you will ever experience if you upgrade every generation getting fasted Dual GPUs. Once CFX and SLI drop below 60fps they stutter real bad.

Trying not to vomit playing Crysis 3...

I wish the people who have no idea what they are talking about would just leave this thread. I definitely want things like this identified so AMD can address it.
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I wish rude people like you that can't accept other people's opinions would leave the forum altogether.
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