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Care to elaborate further? Las time I checked it was a quad core.

It is. It has four x86 execution cores, two in each module. When executing software, it does so just like any other quad-core x86 CPU.

Each module only has a single floating-point unit, though, so an FX-4300 is actually four ALU's and two FPU's; an FX-6300 is six and three, and an FX-83x0 is eight and four. This really has no impact on the processor's performance, because virtually all heavy-duty FPU-intensive tasks are handled through the various SSE units on modern CPU's. It's been a long time since x87 performance was a concern on any CPU.

The reason why Intel processors often out-perform AMD processors with more cores is because Intel processors are much more efficient at processing instructions. The two companies haven't been at clock-for-clock parity for a number of years now. AMD competes by throwing more hardware (extra cores) and higher clock speeds to make up for the IPC weakness of its architecture.

With all of that said, an FX-4300 at 4.8 should easily be faster than a Q9550 at 3.8. Something was definitely wrong there.
     
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If the details are actually changing, it probably means you are very CPU limited.

I would double check that you can actually see a perceptible difference in IQ between the settings. Also, disable vsync.

Yeah, I didn't think the details were changing. I think it's because the benchmark is changing the .cfg in unit C when the game is running on unit F. lol
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With all of that said, an FX-4300 at 4.8 should easily be faster than a Q9550 at 3.8. Something was definitely wrong there.

I got worse results in all benchmarks. Not sure how the 3DMark11 score or any of the other benchmarks (Cinebench, Fritz) translates into real gaming performance, though.
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I got worse results in all benchmarks. Not sure how the 3DMark11 score or any of the other benchmarks (Cinebench, Fritz) translates into real gaming performance, though.

3DMark should be at least vaguely representative, but the work Cinebench and Fritz do generally have next to no relation to gaming performance.

If you want to know how games perform, benchmark games.
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3DMark should be at least vaguely representative, but the work Cinebench and Fritz do generally have next to no relation to gaming performance.

If you want to know how games perform, benchmark games.

Yes, the problem is I did not benchmark any games with my Q9550, basically because just a handful of games have benchmarks included (only way to get consistent results) and I was playing at 2560x1440 until less than 2 weeks ago.
Edited by Trull - 2/23/13 at 6:44pm
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The only real comparison I have is in Super Street Fighter IV, but then again the resolution is different and I don't know how much of a difference it makes in that game or how good the benchmark actually is...



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Has long has he keep his voltage around 1.40v-1.45v then he will be good. Remember 4+1 phase power doesn't always means bad for ocing a 83**.


I don't need to be reminded, i had the 970 extreme 3 and a 6100 at 4.5ghz @ 1.425v any higher and vrm throttle.
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post #108 of 147
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The only real comparison I have is in Super Street Fighter IV, but then again the resolution is different and I don't know how much of a difference it makes in that game or how good the benchmark actually is...




The resolution most probably is the thing that shaves off the FPS. Fighting games don't usually need much CPU. Looking at GPU usage is still a good idea though. Even so when we are talking that high FPS things can start to get limited by other things besides the CPU or GPU in some games. The source engine for example is capped at 300FPS and will not run faster then that no mater what.

As for not getting any less FPS while upping the graphics detail. Well that is a classic example of the CPU limiting the performance as hard as it is for me to believe. What resolution where you running it at and are you sure you didn't see a difference in the minimum frame rate?
    
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Q9550 is a stronger processor than a FX-4300. Period.

Now, how does it perform in games? Well the FX-4300 should edge it a bit.

Want the real deal? Return it and get a FX-8320 (seeing that you're also here in Spain). PCComponentes carries it at 156€, just 34€ more than what the FX-4300 costs.

But, sorry if I wonder, but why on earth would you get a FX-4300, when the FX-6300 costs FOUR EUROS more? kookoo.gif
   
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Yes. Indeed. anyone who goes for a FX4300 instead of a FX6300 iz nutz. Or brain kaput tongue.gif
Just to set things straight how much slower AMD is now than before, instead of increasing IPC they have been raising clockspeeds to the point of utter non-belief
The original 965 BE already lost to Q9400 at 3.4GHz now that piledriver still is a bit slower than stars they probably match in terms of clockspeed now

But that also means that AMD is lacking by 4-5 years
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Intel i7 2600 4GHz Gigabyte Z77X D3H Intel HD Graphics 2000 obviously Kingston HyperX Genesis 4X4GB DDR3 1600 
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Intel 530 240GB Deepcool Captain 240 Arctic Cooling Bionix 140 Delta AFB1212L 
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Windows 10 Pro CoolerMaster G750M NZXT Switch 810 
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