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You're going to want to get her a soundcard and some headphones.
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post #52 of 62
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Originally Posted by Art Vanelay View Post

You should probably ask in the G1 Sniper 3 club if the sound driver issue is common. I just have an issue where once every few days, all of my sounds will sound like the slender man is standing behind me, and once every several boots, the sound will have a bit of static... maybe the real problem is just slendy biggrin.gif

thank you i will check there and see if it's common.
just checked specs and i see it has the creative labs
sound chip. if it turns out to be an issue I can just suggest a dedicated sound card to him.
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post #53 of 62
Damn this guy's daughter is kind of spoilt, and the sad thing is that if she doesn't know enough about specs to explain to her dad what she needs, she wont even appreciate it sad-smiley-002.gif

When I built my first PC 2 years ago, when I was 14, I had a $600 budget because I had to make the cash myself, and I've upgraded it whenever I can. I think it feels more "your own" if you worked hard for it, but whatever. Kids these days (I know im 16 still a kid too shush) rolleyes.gif
post #54 of 62
I think the OP needs some help understanding what his daughter needs & why.

To run the games you mentioned with two 27' monitors maxed out, you'll need 2 high-end GPUs (like Nvidia 670/680 or AMD 7950/7970 ).

The PSU is the most important part in a gaming rig, so Never get a 'standard' 600-1000w whatever brand PSU.
The Capstone & Fortress recommended earlier are excellent quality PSUs, and 750w is about right for 2x 7970s or 550-650w for 2x 680s.
Both can be found in this database which contains only quality PSUs.

CPU wise, the i5-3570K is currently the champ for just a gaming rig (although an AMD FX-8350 which costs the same is a better all-rounder).
It can be oc'ed down the road to get better performance when newer GPUs are used.

Don't buy a ready-made PC since most use cheap components (like the mobo) that don't allow much of an uprade path. But since you're not experienced with assembling a PC, you can buy the parts and pay any computer shop 50-100$ to do it for you.
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Something like this if you want to go all out on the budget: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FCH6 It will last years and will be awesome. Things like the motherboard and memory you can drop down if you want to save money and buy other peripherals but that's just a rough idea of something you could get for $3000.
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Originally Posted by Ironman517 View Post

Does monitors need to be included? here is a quick build. Gaming Build (Click to show)
PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($223.79 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.48 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($135.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($297.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($297.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($165.98 @ Outlet PC)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 750W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1699.13
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

In my opinion, you dont really need anything more than this. I would probably start with 1 GPU, and only add a second one later if you need it. Which you probably wont if you are only using 1 monitor.

I wouldn't go with the ASRock Extreme4 when you have better choices in the same price range, like the Gigabyte Z77X-D3H which has good MOSFETs and accurate voltage. thumb.gif
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post #57 of 62
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hey all

I like to first say i dont know much about computers,that said my daughter is turning 13 and she wants a "gaming pc".Now im not into pc's and dont know much about them and nothing about what the difference between a gaming pc and just a pc.Now im here to ask for help on what gaming pc to buy and where buy it from,i did go to best buy and ask for a gaming pc price $1800 then when to walmart price there about $900 last i call dell they told me about there Alienware Aurora the guy i talk with gave me a list and price that he said it be able to play and do just about anything price $4,435

this from dell $4,435


Alienware™ 875 Watt Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply
PROCESSOR 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-3960X 4.2 GHz
OPERATING SYSTEM Windows® 7 Ultimate, 64Bit, English
MEMORY 16GB (4 X 4GB) Quad Channel DDR3 at 1600MHz
VIDEO CARD NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 690 4GB GDDR5
HARD DRIVE 512GB SSD 6Gb/s MAIN + 1TB 7200RPM Storage
MEDIA CARD READER 19-in-1 Media Card Reader
SOUND CARD Creative Sound Blaster® Recon3D PCIe Audio Sound Card
OPTICAL DRIVE Dual Drives: BD Burn, DVD+

So i have to ask do i go with dell and get the Alienware Aurora or i just get one from best buy or walmart? im still not sure what makes a gaming pc the dell guy really didnt explain it to me or the best buy girl.Im thinking of going with dell b/c well..its dell they make pc's.

If you want you could build one yourself and save a ton of money. Building a PC is like an easy puzzle, certain parts can only go in certain places. There are plenty of tutorials on YouTube that explain how to put a PC together and all you would really need is a screwdriver. Personally I would go for these parts.

CPU: Intel Core i5 3570K - $229.99
Motherboard: Asus Maximus V Gene - $199.99
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8 GB (4x2 GB) - $59.99
Video card: XFX AMD 7970 - $469.99
Power Supply: Corsair TX650 (that will be enough) - $89.99
Case: Li Lian PC-A04B (it does come with all the screws you will need) - $89.99
Storage (SSD): Samsung 840 Pro 512 GB - $519.99
Storage (HDD): Western Digital 2 TB - $224.99
Monitor: Dell S2240M (1080p) - $159.99
Keyboard: Gigabyte GK-K8100 - $55.99
Mouse: Logitech G300 - $39.99
Blu-Ray reader: Asus BC-12B1ST - $59.99

That's $2204.88 and a couple of hours of your time.
It shouldn't need to be upgraded for 5-6 years. You don't really need a sound card unless you have some really good headphones, and out of what I put there you can take a couple of things out if they aren't necessary for your daughter. Such as the Blu-Ray reader if she doesn't watch Blu-Rays on her PC (-$59.99 from price) You could save a ton of money if you get a 256 GB SSD instead of a 512 GB.

This Samsung Pro 840 256 GB should be more than enough and it's $229.99 instead of $519.99. Without the Blu-Ray reader and the 256GB SSD instead of the 512 GB one the price is $1854.89 which is a lot closer to your $1800 budget.
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Awww...but the 690!

You're right, the 3770K is overkill. But then why do people buy 3970Xs for gaming?

because they can?
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post #59 of 62
Hi and welcome to OCN!

I personally always advise on not buying these "high end" gaming PCs. Alienware PCs are way overpriced and in your case over performing. You don't need 16GB of ram of i7 for gaming, specs like that are only useful in scenarios like heavy photo editing and video editing over i5 and 8gb of ram.

If you want to go trough building your own PC there has been many suggestions and good discussion in this thread, but in your case a pre-build gaming PC might work good enough.
I still highly suggest building one yourself! It's a lot of fun and you get what you need for much less money. Or you can go for better gaming system by saving money by building yourself. Also you gain full control over you pc hardware and you can do stuff like overclocking etc on it.
There are plenty of good guides on Youtube for it, Like this series made by guys at Newegg Part 1 Part 2 Part 3

One option would be to ask your local PC hardware store to assemble your pc for you, in my country that usually costs around 50-70€ and they will get it done in a day. You get all the benefits of custom built pc without the hassle of building one yourself! thumb.gif
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because they can?
exactly.
i7 does not bring pretty much no benefit at all over i5 in gaming tasks. Some people are just dumb and think that "hey it gets better benchmark results i really should get one". Like few of the people that i've built PCs for have had really hard time understanding this even after i carefully explained it all rolleyes.gif
Same goes to amount of RAM, most people put 16gb for gaming, when highest demanding games take around 4-6 now days... Also, it is not any more "future proof" By the time 16gb is standard, your old 1600Mhz DDR3 is so slow that you need an update anyway...
Edited by EPiiKK - 2/24/13 at 3:27am
post #60 of 62
what makes a gaming pc? One that gives me the best visuals = normally the best graphic card and cpu if you can afford it.

But bear in mind if are you using one monitor and at 1920x1080 you can go the cheaper route.

And looking at that spec - that's an overkill for your 13 yr old daughter unless daddy is going to play with it! Just my English humour biggrin.gif

And that spec is way over priced, they are on another planet, hence Alien!
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