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x124 generally comes with cpu instability, but it can happen for anything. I've gotten x124 many times for faulty ram, faulty motherboard, faulty psu, ram overclocked too far, etc.

It's best not to read into what the codes mean or blue screen vs black screen, and best to realize that instability is instability, regardless of how it manifests. Now, if you are slowly overclocking and finetuning and raising voltages or something, and you go from instant x124's to resets to worker failure on the 23rd hour, that's a sign that you might be moving closer to the right number, but that's a bit more relative and would be obvious to you when it occurs, as long as you always write down your clock/volt/oc settings as you do your testing.
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Question with the Intel Burn Test, could I just run that instead of Prime? It seems like that would be more practical and I don't see why people are using it instead of prime for 8+ hours. Or is there a reason people use prime instead?

No. There's a reason people do 24 hours of prime95. Prime95 finds errors quicker than any other program, in my experience (as long as you set priority to 10/above normal in task manager). I've had even faulty components pass 50 passes of max ram IBT and occt yet fail consistently in the 23rd hour of prime95.

You really need to do 24 hours prime95 custom blend max ram priority 10 to test stability. This is because prime95 runs about 80+ different tests, and you need to run it for 24 hours to get through a single pass of each test.
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Ok I'm going the opposite way, nothing wrong with the "prime 18 hours" advise but at the end of the day, you're not folding etc. You're playing games that's what needs to be stable for you, right. I've yet to BSOD in game if Prime is say 20mins stable (I just use blend). This also removes the 'need or want' to use IBT because now you're not 'wasting' hours for something fairly simple.

Let's say you do BSOD, then increase volts by 0.005 and start playing again. If you want stability by 'normal' standards then do the 12-18 hour run or hell, 48 run like some advocate.

I gotta disagree with this. It's not that a game won't stress your system anything liek 24 hours of prime95 is, it's that it takes literally 24 hours at minimum to fully test every part of the CPU and IMC. It doesn't mean you need to play 24 hours of intense gaming, it means that all it takes is some guy throwing a grenade at X angle to uncover the instability and cause a crash.

Instability is instability, there is no difference if you fail in the first 15 minutes or fail on the 23rd hour (which I have done many times, most of my overclocks fail after hour 12, even faulty hardware has). All it means is that a certain part of your CPU is unstable and test FFT length X or Y is what reveals it. Technically, you should be able to run prime95 infinitely, and many servers and compute workload stations will run prime95 for a week to ensure stability.

If you want a gaming stable system, you definitely need 24 hours of prime95. Personally I do at least 26 hours, and if I really need to make sure it's stable, I do at least 30 hours so I get a good 2nd pass on the major parts of the CPU. It has nothing to do with how hard you use your computer, and everything to do with that you need to do prime95 for 24 hours to fully stress test every part of your CPU. IBT and other stress test programs simply do not explore the full CPU, such as the IMC and RAM.

If anything, find your 24 hour prime95 stable setting, and then add 100mhz because your only gaming, or whatever, and dont care that in 12 months you will have to reinstall everything and could possiblyt lose all the data on your computer because of corrupt registry errors snowballing after being written incorrectly so many times by an unstable computer. hopefully not because you crash during an update or driver install which can just totally mess everything up. Once I had ram that couldnt do it's XMP profile and I had to reinstall everything.

The ram was actually quite stable, it could pass 50 passes of IBT, a few hours of prime95... but I had to RMA it because it was faulty. It was quite a pain to reinstall everything.
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Instability is instability

Agreed, it's either stable or it's not, there's no in-between.
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Is it bad for the RAM to be running memtest for a long period of time? Since doesn't it put stress on your RAM nonstop?
I'll run it overnight when I get the chance
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No. There's nothing wrong with running any stress test infinitely for weeks on end, which is what people who do data sensitive work like compute workloads and servers do for stability testing, because a single wrong write will mean a model is wrong, the wrong numbers on what a building's architecture can support, incorrect data on how large an explosion really is, a false negative on a cancer diagnosis.

Now for a general usage/gaming build, obviously, you don't care if your chrome settings might be saved incorrectly or you lose a game file or lose everything, but it is annoying.

memtets86+ is more for testing faulty ram then for ram instability. Like you fail prime95 on stock settings on a new system, so you run memtest86+ to make sure the ram is good. However I've had bad motherboard ram slots pass memtest for hours on end. I'm not sure what a great memory tester is, hyperpi 32m seems okay for a 'quick' test but like with the cpu, I think prime95 24 hours is really the only test. However I'm not as experienced with overclocking RAM as I am with the CPU (because I've owned more CPU than RAM). I don't know if there is a program that really quickly finds instability in ram or not, maybe hci memtest up to 3000%?

Prime95 and most stress test programs in general test your ram nonstop. Some more than others, that's all. As long as you don't hit too high a voltage or temp, you can stress test for years on end non-stop with no problem, which is what some people do. Like seti@home, it just runs a stress test basically when you aren't at your computer.
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