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Cost savings that you'll never recoup. It's like the industry does not want this kind of tech to succeed.

What gave it away? rolleyes.gif
     
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post #62 of 77
oh come on man, 6 figures... assuming its only 100k, that's a lot of money!!

whats the point of buying a car like that for the Economy value??

Id rather blow that money on Aston Martin V8 Vantage
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post #63 of 77
Took a glimpse, and was meh..... doesn't look futuristic, looks like something from the 90's
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Suppose it's $100k. Average car is $10k.

$90k difference to make up.

261mpg versus, say, 25mpg.

Suppose a gallon costs $3.85

You need to use $90k / $3.85 in gallons = 23,000 gallons of gas. So, after 6 million miles (6,101,298), you've essentially paid for the mileage difference.

Simply brilliant!

This is so full of FAIL - like many posts on this site - I sometimes wonder.....arrowheadsmiley.png

1. UK $10 a gallon for diesel.
2. $90000 to balance.
3. 25 mpg

So 90,000 / 10 * 25 = 225,000 miles

A bit less than 6 million.

Groan !

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post #65 of 77
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Not to mention, like most high MPG cars from Europe, it most likely won't pass the strict US safety/crash standards.

You must be on something.

EuroNCAP is a global leader in automobilistic security. It's american styled cars the ones that usually fail in security over here, biggrin.gif

Mostly because they are so large and heavy, that they completely destroy themselves from their own inertia.
   
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This is so full of FAIL - like many posts on this site - I sometimes wonder.....arrowheadsmiley.png

1. UK $10 a gallon for diesel.
2. $90000 to balance.
3. 25 mpg

So 90,000 / 10 * 25 = 225,000 miles

A bit less than 6 million.

Groan !

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the irony is killing me. Dman was using US (or maybe Canadian) prices for Diesel to calculate how many miles needed to make it worth it. Sorry we don't all live in the UK
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This is so full of FAIL - like many posts on this site - I sometimes wonder.....arrowheadsmiley.png

1. UK $10 a gallon for diesel.
2. $90000 to balance.
3. 25 mpg

So 90,000 / 10 * 25 = 225,000 miles

A bit less than 6 million.

Groan !

dunx
Not only that, the average new car purchase is $30k.
70,000/10*25=175,000 miles. Which is achievable by most cars these days.

Besides, as others have stated, this is an engineering demonstration, and the technology from this vehicle will trickle down over the years into average priced vehicles.
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Suppose it's $100k. Average car is $10k.

$90k difference to make up.

261mpg versus, say, 25mpg.

Suppose a gallon costs $3.85

You need to use $90k / $3.85 in gallons = 23,000 gallons of gas. So, after 6 million miles (6,101,298), you've essentially paid for the mileage difference.

Simply brilliant!

This is so full of FAIL - like many posts on this site - I sometimes wonder.....arrowheadsmiley.png

1. UK $10 a gallon for diesel.
2. $90000 to balance.
3. 25 mpg

So 90,000 / 10 * 25 = 225,000 miles

A bit less than 6 million.

Groan !

dunx

Except it's 261mpg, not 25mpg. So you're using 10x less diesel. So it's actually 2,250,000 miles. And that's only because gas is 2.5 times more expensive per gallon. 2.5 x 2,250,000 = 5,625,000
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post #69 of 77
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This is so full of FAIL - like many posts on this site - I sometimes wonder.....arrowheadsmiley.png

1. UK $10 a gallon for diesel.
2. $90000 to balance.
3. 25 mpg

So 90,000 / 10 * 25 = 225,000 miles

A bit less than 6 million.

Groan !

dunx

You must be unaware that gas (or diesel) is under $4/gallon here in the US. You must also be unaware that the US in the third most populous country in the world and the only one in the top five (Japan sits at #10) with a first world economy. So, most anything you see on this site as it relates to prices is going to be from a US (or Canadian, since prices up north aren't terribly different) perspective.

Er, one more error. The average cost of a new vehicle is $31,000 in the US.
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EuroNCAP is a global leader in automobilistic security. It's american styled cars the ones that usually fail in security over here, biggrin.gif

Mostly because they are so large and heavy, that they completely destroy themselves from their own inertia.

A. Any crash test is going to be weighted towards the most common types of impacts encountered by an average car in whatever jurisdiction that test covers. Hence, American cars are bigger and any imported car needs to be able to keep their drivers alive in a crash on American roads. Cars like the Smart, whatever the (legitimate or not) claims of safety, are considered death traps by the average American driver, to the point that they never leave used car dealerships once traded in. In Europe, cars like the Smart are pretty much the norm.

B. Actually, American cars are deliberately designed to do that. The frames have what are called crumple zones which progressively bleed off kinetic energy along the entirety of the frame as they collapse, which drastically reduces kinetic energy delivered to the occupants. Although, believe it or not, the Gumpert Apollo is pretty much the ultimate expression of the design concept and that's a European car.
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