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post #1 of 21
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Hello again everyone Im back with a new question about the air flow in Cases.
I posted awhile back about a question on how to overclock, I got that question pretty much answered and for that I wanna Thank you.

Now I have been asking around on how to direct the airflow in Cases and have been giving quite alot of different answers, I would like to hear what you think is best for air cooling.

My current Case that I have is Cooler Master Wave Master that has 3 fans in it, Two in the front and One in the back of the Case. On most reviews I've read about the Case it says that the Case has Two Air intakes and One Outtake so to speak. I think thats how it is now. The fan in the back does seem however a little more powerfull then the two on the frontside.

The ones I've been asking however all have different ideas, they say that it is bad to have two air intakes since you want the hot air out, and if I have two air intakes alot of dust and crap will be gathered inside the Case.

When I look in bios it says that the current System fans are around 1600 RPM's, I was thinking of buyin new ones, change the two fans infront to 2000 RPM fans and the one in the back to 3000 RPM. This is my idea.

Now I'm gonna overclock this computer to about 3 Ghz (got E6600, current temp 55 degrees in load) my new CPU cooler will be Thermaltake BigTyp 120 VX along with Arctic Silver 5 paste. But as for the Air flow in the case? Shall I have it like it is and just change the fans? Or do you another idea whats best for the air flow?

Thanks for the answers I really appreciate it.
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post #2 of 21
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Oh yea I forgot, if it matters the size of the fans are 80*80
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post #3 of 21
Front & Right panels are for intake.
Rear & Top are for exhaust.
    
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post #4 of 21
Have the same case - the front fans suck a lot of air, and if you buy an aftermarket high CFM one for the back it will even out
post #5 of 21
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Transonic: Thanks for making that clear to me.

Jakg: I havent seen any info about the fans in the Case so I can't tell if they are good or not, but you say just chaning the back fan?

How would a PAPST fan with 3100 RPM and 40,6 CFM be? Would it do the trick?
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post #6 of 21
The higher RPMs aren't what you should be looking for. You need higher flow (CFM) to get your case cooler. Have a look at some of these 80mm fans if you want serious flow.

Have you thought about modding your side panel so you could fit a fan on there?
    
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post #7 of 21
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Originally Posted by Andreas View Post
Transonic: Thanks for making that clear to me.

Jakg: I havent seen any info about the fans in the Case so I can't tell if they are good or not, but you say just chaning the back fan?

How would a PAPST fan with 3100 RPM and 40,6 CFM be? Would it do the trick?
the fans arent amazing, about 20 CFM each (CFM is a unit of how much air the move), but if you have 2 at the front - then thats 40 CFM in, put in that PAPST and you have 40.6 CFM at the back - nice and even.

Only problem is noise, how loud is it?
post #8 of 21
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Originally Posted by Transonic View Post
Front & Right panels are for intake.
Rear & Top are for exhaust.
I have actually found front fans to be an annoyance... But only if your HDD blocks the Fans... I had mine setup like that, and my temps reached over 50*C on load! I removed all fans except the BTT and PSU Fan, and now load temps are around 42*C.... It doesn't make sense to me, but that's how it was...

Maybe you should get a side air duct for your case, I'm getting one for my next build, (right now the BTis about 1 1/2' away from the 80mm holein my case,it works great) and It may help your CPU temps a lot. It can also decrease the Heat in your room from the computer, a problem I had before I changed my airflow setup.

Another good thing to have is either a 140mm top case fan or a 140mm fan on your PSU, like on the Coolmax CR-450b. Not the best (stable) PSU, but one of the coolest running and quietest.
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post #9 of 21
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Transonic: Thanks for the link, and I have giving it some thought about modding my Case, but since this will be the first time I overclock a CPU I will start with that then see if it works after . Being me I probebly wont be that lucky.

Jakg: Noise level of the fan is 32 dBA so its not super quiet.

KSIMP88: That's actually how my HDD is placed right now, blocking the fans, and I get 55 degrees in load when Im reading from Intel Thermal Analysis Tool, if I check bios its on 49. But Ive been told to always go with TAT since it always reads from the hottest places on the CPU. Why it gets so hot Ive been telling myself it's mostly cause of the Stock Cooler. But I did think the readings were a little high considering people have been clocking with the stock cooler up to 3 Ghz and getting under 60 degrees. I think I just found the reason for my high temps then.
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post #10 of 21
It's not so much that the HDD blocks the fans, it's that HDD's usually run upwards of 40*C, and that kind on heat being the "cool" air in the case doesn't help...
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