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Originally Posted by Interpolation View Post

Wow. Talk about misinformation. Neil Thompson really knows nothing of the hardware that these different consoles use. The Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 are handicapped by a DirectX 9 limitation while the Playstation 4 and Xbox 720 use modern DX11 hardware.

To state that there are no obvious differences between DX9 and DX11 hardware/games is naïve to say the least. rolleyes.gif

Obvious differences? Sure.
But definitely no-where nearly as pervasive or large as the jump from DX8 to DX9 which is the guys point, there will be a jump but it won't be massive...and it will always, always become less and less of an improvement.
This is why CPUs are going to take a much, much larger role in gaming performance in the next ~10 or so years as developers move to making AI and Physics what they mainly concentrate on to differentiate their games, which I'm extremely excited for...Stealth sections will be a lot more difficult and a lot funner if the AI does more than react to you appearing and then forgetting you exist.
    
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so what does 600,000 triangles look like?

Not much different?




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Exactly the same as 60,000 at that resolution.

how so?
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how so?

Because that pic is so small, you can hardly make out any differences. The larger the picture--and throw in some motion--and you will be noticing a WHOLE lot more of a difference.
   
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This is why CPUs are going to take a much, much larger role in gaming performance in the next ~10 or so years as developers move to making AI and Physics what they mainly concentrate on to differentiate their games, which I'm extremely excited for...Stealth sections will be a lot more difficult and a lot funner if the AI does more than react to you appearing and then forgetting you exist.

I'd hope that we start pushing physics more and more to the GPU side of things.

But dear god better AI and soft body physics would be a huge improvement on what we have now.
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Maybe not much difference quality but this generation of consoles shouldnt have the same framerate issues. Xbox360 and PS3 struggled with 30fps @ 1080p, for the Xbox720 and PS4 there shouldnt be much excuse for the framerate to not be pegged @ 60.
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How bout some dynamic lighting, and not have to increase the polygon count, but add the number of NPCs and models that can appear on screen with a decent polygon count. I can honestly say the face and character meshs of skyrim characters leaves a bit to be desired.
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post #28 of 51
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Wow. Talk about misinformation. Neil Thompson really knows nothing of the hardware that these different consoles use. The Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 are handicapped by a DirectX 9 limitation while the Playstation 4 and Xbox 720 use modern DX11 hardware.

To state that there are no obvious differences between DX9 and DX11 hardware/games is naïve to say the least. rolleyes.gif

I do believe you're about to wow us with your irrefutable credentials that overwhelmingly overshadow a Director in a well-established, well-pedigreed game studio.
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Hi-poly models will be more noticeable once games feature more realistic muscle models for morph animation. At least for the faces, though bodies will probably benefit from it too. Also, I don't think we've seen SSS applied to any games, at least not noticeable application. I'm tired of plasticky or super oily skin.
Edited by geoxile - 2/25/13 at 8:12pm
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Maybe not much difference quality but this generation of consoles shouldnt have the same framerate issues. Xbox360 and PS3 struggled with 30fps @ 600p/720p, for the Xbox720 and PS4 there shouldnt be much excuse for the framerate to not be pegged @ 60.

Fixed. smile.gif
   
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